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    • How Silicon Valley learned to love war

      Nov 2, 2026 • 53 min
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    What HN said

    • logshipperDec 2021
      I see comments talking about Stripe's "PR", not just in this thread, but also the one from a couple days ago [1]. I agree that Stripe's hiring practices, based on the information available, certainly warrant criticism.

      But I also think it is important to distinguish between Stripe the product and Stripe the company (and subsequently its hiring practices). Based on what I've heard, developers love Stripe, and they are popular in YC too for obvious reasons. PG's essays have often mentioned the Collisons [2], and Patrick Collison is admired (presumably) universally for his smarts [3]. All the above mentioned praise stems primarily from two things:

      a) Stripe having a well-functioning product

      b) The Collisons being incredibly smart and driven individuals

      Both of these factors in conjunction imply that Stripe will be heavily admired. The love for Stripe is therefore a manifestation of that implication, and I dont think there is some PR machine working tirelessly to polish the Stripe brand.

      It is a fallacy to extrapolate the sentiment surrounding product and founders to assume that Stripe will automatically be a "good" company.

      Needless to say, my heart goes out to those who had offers rescinded. As others have mentioned, an offer can set in motion events that are seemingly irreversible. I hope Stripe uses this as an opportunity to reflect on their hiring systems and fix them to be more waterproof.

      [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29387264 [2] http://paulgraham.com/ds.html [3] https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stripe-ceo-patrick-col...

      Edit: fixed grammar

    • ajmurmannJun 2020
      The recent episode of the Ezra Klein podcast interviews Paul Butler who argues that prison does more harm than good and that we does replace it with a system that actually improves people.

      He compares our current lease enforcement system to a chokehold: "Butler describes a chokehold as “a process of coercing submission that is self-reinforcing. A chokehold justifies additional pressure on the body because a body does not come into compliance, but a body cannot come into compliance because of the vice grip that is on it.” That, he says, is the black experience in the United States. "

      https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id...

    • scrollbarApr 2021
      Just finished reading Soros' The New Paradigm for Financial Markets, and also listened to a Vox podcast episode on him https://podcasts.apple.com/al/podcast/who-is-the-real-george...

      He seems like a pretty reasonable and interesting guy. The Vox episode sounded like a balanced take on his legacy: mixed but generally positive impact. The biggest argument against him that resonates with me is the same that applies to all the mega-wealthy: a handful of rich individuals should not have ultimate power to craft policy decisions, rather the world would benefit from a more balanced democratic process.

    • dredmorbiusJun 2022
      See also Neil Postman, particularly Amusing Ourselves to Death, and Nicholas Carr, The Shallows.

      Ezra Klein with Nick Carr:

      https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nicholas-carr-on-deep-...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amusing_Ourselves_to_Death

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shallows_(book)

    • dnissleyApr 2022
      Some pieces from Sullivan that fill in more background:

      We all live on campus now: https://archive.ph/r3hBu

      What happened to you?: https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/what-happened-to-you-e...

      Interview with Ezra Klein: https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/andrew-sullivan-and-i-...

    • AmorymeltzerJul 2020
      A while ago, she was on The Ezra Klein Show (a podcast) to basically play through live a world building example. Pretty fun!

      Overcast: https://overcast.fm/+QLhXLnUOw

      Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1081584611?ct=podlink&m...

      Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6xyFQhbsjQ

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