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    32. Angela Duckworth Explains How to Manage Your Goal Hierarchy

    People I (Mostly) Admire · Jul 25, 2026 · 51 min
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    She’s the author of the bestselling book Grit, and a University of Pennsylvania professor of psychology — a field Steve says he knows nothing about. But once Angela gives Steve a quick tutorial on “goal conflict,” he is suddenly a fan. They also talk parenting, self-esteem, and how easy it is to learn econometrics if you feel like it. This episode originally aired June 18, 2021.

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