Episode
Mustafa Suleyman — AI is hacking our empathy circuits
Azeem Azhar's Exponential View · Feb 5, 2026 · 50 min
A week before OpenClaw was released, I recorded a prescient conversation with Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI and co-founder of DeepMind. We talked about what happens when AI starts to seem conscious – even if it isn’t. Today, you get to hear our conversation. Mustafa has been sounding the alarm about what he calls “seemingly conscious AI” and the risk of collective AI psychosis for a long…