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Microsoft AI CEO says AI threats are real, and Anthropic is making it worse
Decoder with Nilay Patel · Sep 17, 2026 · 53 min
Today, I’m talking with Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI. As you’re no doubt aware, the biggest story in tech right now is the spiraling debate about AI safety and regulation. So I really wanted to talk to Mustafa about what he thinks is real and not in AI safety, whether the concept of alignment itself is up to the task, and whether this industry needs to slow down before it kills us…