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Microsoft AI chief thinks superintelligence is near, but won't take your job
Decoder with Nilay Patel · Jun 8, 2026 · 1 h 16 min
Today I’m talking with Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI. This is a real burner of an episode. We covered everything from his approach to training new models to his criticisms of Anthropic talking about Claude as though it is conscious. Of course, we also talked about Microsoft’s relationship with OpenAI, how Mustafa is thinking about all the negative polling and political pushback…