Riddley Walker
Engrossing post apocalyptic book that told entirely in a vividly degenerated post-English that the reader is left to decipher as they find their way through the novel.
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- I am a lifetime avid reader but there are very few books I come back to and re-read. I guess the books which impact you the most aren't the ones you'd expect. Here are some that come to mind:
*Novels in Three Lines* - Felix Feneon; like clever sarcastic haiku
*Riddley Walker* - Russell Hoban; It's written in an imagined language making it completely and utterly immersive
*Waiting for Nothing* - Tom Kromer; Great depression era destitution, and travel
*Days of Life and Death and Escape to the Moon* - William Saroyan; In an era of great writers, Saroyan remains wildly under appreciated.
*Really the Blues* - Mezz Mezzrow; Written in 1920s jive slang, it's emblematic of an era
*The KLF* - John Higgs; The book is subtitled "Chaos, Magic and the Band who Burned a Million Pounds" All those things are true and Higgs brilliantly tells the tale.
- It was deliberate choice in a sub thread that's literally about literary metaphors.
As a native english reader, writer and speaker of some six decades I grasp the tension in the use of ' literally "airquoted" ' and embrace it.
I also enjoy Riddley Walker, the first edition of Clockwork Orange (sans lexicographic annexure), and the outrageously provocative shock value of the opening sentence of Burgess's panoramic saga Earthly Powers.
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- If one gets into the books that invent their own dialect, the most dense I found was "Riddley Walker" by Hoban Russel. As a non native English reader it was very difficult to make progress, but once the understanding settles in, it's a pretty nice story. Also of note is Anathem, even though Stephenson's jargon is more accessible, I think, to Latin languages speakers.
- You might enjoy Riddley Walker by Russell Hoban, which is a post apocalyptic novel set in Kent. It's doesn't fit the definition of Ergodic but it's a cracking read anyway.
- One of my favourite books, the haunting and poetic dystopian Riddley Walker has a particularly interesting relationship with its real-life Kent locations, as the (American) author Russell Hoban played in his beautiful language twisting with their names:
Bollock Stoans - Bullockstone
Cambry - Canterbury
Do It Over - Dover
Horny Boy - Herne Bay
etc
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Sample passage imagining the post-apocalyptic development of rhymes and myths tied to the local area by the hero's folk:
It wer Ful of the Moon that nite. The rain littlt off the sky cleart and the moon come out. We put the boars head on the poal up on top of the gate house. His tusks glimmert and you cud see a dryd up trickl from the corners of his eyes like 1 las tear from each. Old Lorna Elswint our tel woman up there getting the tel of the head. Littl kids down be low playing Fools Circel 9wys. Singing:
Horny Boy rung Widders Bel
Stoal his Fathers Ham as wel
Bernt his Arse and Forkt a Stoan
Done It Over broak a boan
Out of Good Shoar vackt his wayt
Scratcht Sams Itch for No. 8
Gone to senter nex to see
Cambry coming 3 times 3
Sharna pax and get the poal
When the Ardship of Cambry comes out of the hoal
- To save you some scripting:
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