Name: The red book =
ISBN: 9780393065671

The red book =

When Carl Jung embarked on an extended self-exploration, the result was "The Red Book," a large, illuminated volume he created between 1914 and 1930. However, only a handful of people have ever seen it. Now, in a complete facsimile and translation, it is available to scholars and the general public.

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krappApr 2026

Yes, you've discovered archetypes. Go read Jung's Red Book, none of this is new.

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prospopaDec 2025

The Red Book by Carl Jung.

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throwaway47292Dec 2021

If you are interested in Jung's metaphysics I strongly recommend ordering a copy of The Red Book (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393065677) even though it costs 200$, it is worth every penny. It is amazing to read Jung's unfiltered mind.

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richardjdareDec 2021

There is a cheaper "Readers Edition" of the Red Book available. Also, Jung's student Marie-Louise Von Franz wrote a bit about Jung's later ideas in her books, "Number and Time", and "Psyche and Matter".

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throwaway47292Dec 2021

Hmm, this is hard to answer.

I have read Jung's CW 9, 11, 12 and 16 and bits and pieces from the rest, but I think when I read The Red Book things really changed for how I see his work.

It is extremely raw material, of an alienist on the verge of madness, and yet he managed to extract the deepest reason out of the experience.

I think it is really worth reading, but in compliment with the images he drew. Maybe you can still buy the reader's edition and look at the images online, as 200$ is a lot, but if you can afford it i would recommend to get the big book.

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carapaceJan 2020

Cheers!

> But can we codify it in a mathematical language that can be a visual map?

Short answer is yes (but not in the same way as physics.) But there's no "one true" map (somewhat like how there's no "one true" programming language.)

> I chose Vedic astrology because to a certain extent the astronomy and math part of it is pretty well documented and authored.

Yes, but it's all made up. And all in association with a world that's long gone (or at least changed massively since then.) It's no better or worse than e.g. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Astrology isn't about the actual planets.

Have you looked at Sacred Geometry? (It's just geometry, but studied with a sacred mindset.) https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Sacred+Geometry&t=ffab&atb=v60-1&i...

It sounds to me like you might be wanting to "mind map" psychological archetypes onto a sort of Sacred Geometry? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_map )

> How to extract the predictive pattern recognition aspects of it so the ‘intuition’ part of it can be understood?

There's aren't any "predictive pattern recognition aspects" in the thing itself. As scientists point out, rightly, divination is logically barren. The intuition is something the operator does, the system of astrology (or whatever) is just the markings on the dial.

You can't understand intuition (if you could it would just be "thinking") only experience it. Understanding and intuition are like sight and hearing: two different but complimentary ways to sense/model the Universe.

Does this help?

Really, if you just want to study astrology like an anthropologist would then just read the books you have. If you want to use astrology to model the world you should instead use physics. If you want to use astrology to model the inner world then read e.g. "Golden Bough" and Jung's archetype work and his Liber Novus (aka The Red Book), and maybe "The Varieties of Religious Experience" and "The Perennial Philosophy". And then just make up your own system. It will work just as well for prediction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Bough

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_%28Jung%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Varieties_of_Religious_Exp...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perennial_Philosophy

(It's a shame this got flagged, eh?)

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