The new economics for industry, government, education

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1. senguidevApr 2022
   Yeah, this is understandable. TBH I'm still trying to strengthen the intuition and looking for more clues that it scales.

   The good thing is: the strategy for personal success seems to be aligned with the strategy for a global good faith. So I can live with doubts: maybe it scales, maybe it doesn't. That doesn't change my daily behaviour, I'm maximizing for myself. This is not a prisoner dilemna where I lose if I cooperate.

   I would even argue that if it wasn't aligned, this would certainly be doomed.

   The books "Reinventing Organizations" (Frédéric Laloux) and "The New Economics for Industry, Government, Education" (Edward Deming) (intro: https://apenwarr.ca/log/20161226) gave me good intuitions that this can work at least at a corporate level.

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2. neomJan 2021
   As a huge Ed Deming fan, I'd recommend these books:

   - The Essential Deming: Leadership Principles from the Father of Quality: https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Deming-Leadership-Principle...

   - The New Economics for Industry, Government, Education: https://www.amazon.com/Economics-Industry-Government-Educati...

   - The Toyota Way: 14 Management Principles from the World's Greatest Manufacturer: https://www.amazon.com/Toyota-Way-Management-Principles-Manu...

   Deming is really a great thinking in the area of product development and agile methodologies.

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3. CalChrisSep 2021
   Actually, Deming said much the opposite:

     It is wrong to suppose that if you can’t measure it, you can’t manage it – a costly myth.
   

   p. 26 of The New Economics for Industry, Government, Education

   It wasn't Drucker either.

   https://medium.com/centre-for-public-impact/what-gets-measur...

   This whole mindless must measure, must measure mentality has been criticized since the 50s. Measurement is a tool. There are many tools.

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4. cpachAug 2021
   Avery inspired me to buy one of Deming’s books. Alas, I haven’t read it yet, but this was a good reminder that I should do so. (IIRC the one I bought was The New Economics for Industry, Government, Education.)
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