Out of the crisis

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1. andrekandreJul 2026
   yes!

   as an aside: two books that made it almost impossible for me to deal with management "goals" at large corporations anymore:

   1. the goal - by goldratt

   2. out of the crisis - by deming

   highly recommended!

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2. kqrFeb 2026
   The New Economics! Then Out of the Crisis. Then if you're really hardcore, Some Theory of Sampling.
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3. 0xbadcafebeeOct 2025
   A lot of this is based on heavy assumptions about systems and risk/safety analysis. The biggest assumption this post is making is that humans should be involved at all.

   Systems do not have to facilitate operators in building accurate mental models. In fact, safe systems disregard mental models, because a mental model is a human thing, and humans are fallible. Remove the human and you have a safer system.

   Safety is not a dynamic control problem, it's a quality-state management problem. You need to maintain a state of quality assurance/quality control to ensure safety. When it falters, so does safety. Dynamism is sometimes not a factor (although when it is, it's typically a harmful factor).

   Also fwiw, there's often not a root cause, but instead multiple causes (or coincidental states). For getting better at tracking down causes of failures (and preventing them), I recommend learning the Toyota Production System, then reading Out Of The Crisis. That'll kickstart your brain enough to be more effective than 99.99% of people.

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4. loloquwowndueoApr 2025
   Right on. I’d take an AI CEO trained by reading “the mythical man month”, “Peopleware”, “out of the crisis”, “drive” over some of the real CEOs I’ve worked under, any day of the week and Sundays too.
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5. speak_plainlyFeb 2025
   Imagine if they had read something like Out of the Crisis by W. Edwards Deming.

   Instead of creating a digital whip for shallow (or even outright harmful) managers, they could have developed a QA tool grounded in real, deep thinking—one that respects proven principles of manufacturing.

   There’s still time to course-correct, and embracing some of the foundational literature on the topic could make the difference.

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6. PaulHouleJan 2025
   I love Out of the crisis by Deming and Some theory of sampling.
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