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    Boarding Area

    boardingarea.com · Publication · on HN since 2009

    Boarding Area hosts travel blogs, including Flying With Fish, which covers TSA policy, airline miles, and air travel news.

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    What HN says

    HN links it for TSA stories, especially a post on how the agency legally gets around the Fourth Amendment, and for airline rewards analysis.

    Stats for nerds
    22HN people shared it
    26linked in comments
    272story points
    Mar 2014last shared
    2009people per year2014

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Did The TSA and JetBlue Deny Travel For Looking Muslim During Ramadan? No
      1 person · 193 points · first shared 2013 · 222 comments on HN
    2. 2
      TSA To Ban Printer Cartridges Next Week : SD 1554-10-05
      1 person · 16 points · first shared 2010 · 27 comments on HN
    3. 3
      TSA screeners point of view on pat downs
      1 person · 13 points · first shared 2010 · 6 comments on HN
    4. 4
      Kill Everyone On Board
      1 person · 9 points · first shared 2011 · 8 comments on HN
    5. 5
      Photos of the TSA are allowed - even if they try to arrest you.
      1 person · 9 points · first shared 2010 · 1 comments on HN
    6. 6
      Are Banks now sending out 1099s for Airline Miles awarded?
      1 person · 5 points · first shared 2012 · 2 comments on HN
    7. 7
      Were you there? Someone bought a round of drinks on Alaska Air flight.
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2011 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      TSA Clarifies Policy For Pat Down Refusal In Time For Thanksgiving
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2010 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      The Economics of Airlines’ Mileage Addiction
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2009 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      Why I Don't Trust Hotel Discounter jetsetter.com
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2012 · Discussion on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • lognJan 2013

      What I don't get is the 1973 court decision allowing these searches:
      "In 1973 the 9th Circuit Court rules on U.S. vs Davis, 482 F.2d 893, 908, there are key pieces of wording that give the TSA its power to search essentially any way they choose to. The key wording in this ruling includes “noting that airport screenings are considered to be administrative searches because they are conducted as part of a general regulatory scheme, where the essential administrative purpose is to prevent the carrying of weapons or explosives aboard aircraft [...] [an administrative search is allowed if] no more intrusive or intensive than necessary, in light of current technology, to detect weapons or explosives, confined in good faith to that purpose, and passengers may avoid the search by electing not to fly.” " (source: http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2010/11/20/how-the-tsa-legally-circumvents-the-fourth-amendment/)

      So our forefathers obviously intended "reasonable searches" to include strip-searching the entire population of travelers to ensure they are not bearing arms. Riiight. According to Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Colonial_America ), in colonial America the government regularly searched houses and seized property without warrants (general searches) to enforce taxes. There was a legal battle over this, AND
      --->>> John Adams viewed it as the spark in which originated the American Revolution.

      Seriously, how…

    • philrapoFeb 2014

      Nice, looking forward to reading your thoughts. I've been thinking about this myself recently.

      I'd suggest using a higher estimate for the value of rewards points. (You used a 1%.) You can explicitly get >1% cash back on many cards, so I'd argue that's really the lower bound.[1]

      Most reward points can be redeemed for ~2%, with conscious consumers getting even more than that. [2]

      Consumers are very aware of the value they're getting, too. If you read AMEX company filings, the redemption rate on MR points is >90%. I found that shockingly high. It's tough to get consumers to switch to bitcoin when it's worse value and more risk.

      [1] https://creditcards.chase.com/freedom?jp_cmp=cc/freedom/off/na/multiple
      [2] http://boardingarea.com/onemileatatime/2012/05/25/my-updated-analysis-on-what-a-milepoint-is-worth-credit-card-points/

    • WarDekarMar 2010

      "Pornography or porn is the portrayal of explicit sexual subject matter for the purposes of sexual excitement." [1]

      Doctors don't take photos (or other media) of naked children, so there is no pornography involved. Obviously if they do take photos, there is a crime. Likewise if they touch a child inappropriately, there is a (different) crime.

      In the case of the body scanners, images are taken, thus it is pornography, and a crime.

      And of course, MDs are actually screened and have thorough background checks where-as there have been multiple instances [2] of TSA employees not being thoroughly screened.

      1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography

      2. http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2010/02/05/tsa-hires-felon-forces-airport-to-issue-security-badge/

    • stingraycharlesMar 2014

      Most ToS state that their terms are subject to change. I do not know whether or not a company has to explicitly state that the terms provided are perpetual, but there are lots of examples of companies changing their ToS retroactively.

      For example:

      http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2008/09/google-on-chrome-eula-controversy-our-bad-well-change-it/

      http://boardingarea.com/viewfromthewing/2012/10/10/united-makes-another-retroactive-change-to-bonus-terms-and-conditions/

      And here is an interesting paper about retroactive lawmaking by the government:

      http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_Weienonline.pdf

    • ben1040Nov 2012

      http://boardingarea.com/blogs/traveltechtalk/2008/06/30/why-will-aircell-gogo-succeed-where-boeing-connexion-failed/

      The Boeing Connexion system was satellite-based (thus high latency), cost $500K per plane, and weighed 1000 pounds.

      The Gogo equipment costs $100K per plane, and weighs 100 pounds. It's ground-based, with stations using EVDO equipment that point upwards. Presumably the EVDO base stations cost a lot less to implement and operate than running a satellite uplink, since that's tried and true cell phone tech.

    • city41Jan 2013

      The broad and vague ruling that enables the TSA to do anything they want in airports[0] can (and will) be applied to just about any public event. It's probably just a matter of a few years or so before the TSA is searching us at virtually all public gatherings. And there isn't a damn thing we can do about it.

      [0] http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2010/11/20/how-the-tsa-legally-circumvents-the-fourth-amendment/

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