Skip to content
HomeVideosBooksBlogs
AllTop postsTopics
Podcasts
HistoryListsWatch laterLiked videosFollowing

The videos, books, blogs and podcasts Hacker News keeps recommending, all in one place.

VideosBooksBlogsPodcastsAboutPrivacySettings

Data from Hacker News, HackerTube, HackerBooks, HackerBlogs and Open Library. Credits · Not affiliated with Y Combinator.

HomeVideosBooksBlogsPodcasts
Ctrl K
    T

    TeleGeography Blog

    blog.telegeography.com · Company blog · on HN since 2016

    TeleGeography's blog covers global telecom data, especially submarine cables, internet traffic, IP transit prices and international call revenue.

    Visit blogHN submissions
    NetworkingData & Visualization
    What HN says

    HN links it in submarine cable threads, where commenters use its data to show cable faults happen about every three days and to check transit prices.

    Stats for nerds
    20HN people shared it
    6linked in comments
    129story points
    Feb 2025last shared
    2016people per year2025

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Trans-Pacific Cable Chaos, Shifting Asian Hubs
      1 person · 117 points · first shared 2021 · 87 comments on HN
    2. 2
      A decade of visualized submarine cable maps
      1 person · 5 points · first shared 2025 · Discussion on HN
    3. 3
      Frequently Asked Questions: Submarine Cables 101
      1 person · 4 points · first shared 2017 · Discussion on HN
    4. 4
      What to Know About Fiber’s Role in Ukraine’s Information War
      2 people · 2 points · first shared 2022 · Discussion on HN
    5. 5
      Retail International Call Revenues Down to $64B in 2019
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2021 · Discussion on HN
    6. 6
      Finns lead the way in mobile data usage
      2 people · first shared 2020
    7. 7
      What happens when submarine cables break
      2 people · first shared 2025
    8. 8
      2021 global ip transit price trends
      1 person · first shared 2022
    9. 9
      Does 70 of the worlds internet traffic flow through virginia
      1 person · first shared 2020
    10. 10
      Is it sabotage unraveling the mystery of undersea cable breaks
      1 person · first shared 2025

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • HamukoJul 2020

      How is this calculated? Because Finland is completely saturated in unlimited data plans and if you don't care for speed, you can get a relatively cheap plan.

      Elisa (39% market share): unlimited 1 Mbps data for 9.90 euro a month (29.90 euro a month for 150 Mbps).

      Telia (31% market share): unlimited 0.256 Mbps data for 7.90 euro a month (29.90 euro a month for 150 Mbps).

      DNA (29% market share): unlimited 1 Mbps data for 12.90 euro a month (29.90 euro a month for 150 Mbps).

      Moi (part of DNA these days, don't know if it's counted in their 29% or not): unlimited 100 Mbps for 18 euro a month (23 euro a month for 300 Mbps).

      I think Moi might be the only operator that actually sells fixed data plans (6 euro a month for 4 GB at 100 Mbps). Everyone else just sells unlimited plans at varying levels of speed with the entry-level plans basically handicapped to basically email syncing only.

      Also, apparently the average monthly data usage for a mobile plan in Finland is 34.3 GB (https://blog.telegeography.com/finns-lead-the-way-in-mobile-data-usage). Probably not going to be hitting that at 0.256 Mbps.

    • sumeaFeb 2025

      There is a company, TeleGeography, that collects data about telecommunications industry. I recently read their recent blog post[1] about undersea cable breaks.

      To summarize the article: On average, 199 cable faults per year from 2010-2023. Two thirds of these faults are caused by external forces like fishing vessels. Most cable faults are not made public. The preliminary data from 2024 suggests slightly more publicly disclosed faults, but nothing extraordinary. It is hard to detect the physical cause of cable damage. One likely cause is inexperienced crews on poorly maintained ships.

      Personally, I do not believe all the cable faults in the Baltic sea are pure accidents. Russia (and China) have found the "perfect" way to test how we react and play their games. This testing is nothing new and it has happened before in many forms. It is likely that we have not even noticed some of the testing or they are not made public.

      [1] https://blog.telegeography.com/is-it-sabotage-unraveling-the-mystery-of-undersea-cable-breaks

    • henrikfAug 2020

      If I understand the methodology correctly this study seems to penalize unlimited plans quite a lot. In the linked methodology pdf they specify that the price for 1 GB of data for unlimited plans is calculated by dividing by the average data usage per user but limited plans are divided by the limit.

      For example in Finland almost all plans are unlimited and users regularly use a lot of mobile data. Average monthly use is 34 GB and median 6 GB [0]. The cheapest mobile plan I can find is 9.90€/month for unlimited data at 1 Mbit/s [1]. Dividing it by 6 GB median data use gives $1.95 for 1 GB which is close to the their reported minimum price of $1.75. However if this plan was instead marketed with 100 GB monthly cap they would have divided it by 100 GB instead giving a much cheaper price.

      [0] https://blog.telegeography.com/finns-lead-the-way-in-mobile-data-usage
      [1] https://elisa.fi/kauppa/puhelinliittymat

    • toast0Nov 2024

      Traditionally, undersea cables were owned / maintained by telephone companies or partnerships of several. Over time, that morphed to telecoms companies, including dedicated networking companies. They'd run their own stuff on the cables and lease out excess capacity.

      As big tech has been concentrating and also doing more global networking, and running their own backbones and things, they became heavy users of these cables, and then partners, and now sometimes sole owners.

      I suspect the actual maritime operations are contracted out.

      I don't know how accurate this is, but it seems like a good start towards a list of cables where big tech is involved [1]

      [1] https://blog.telegeography.com/telegeographys-content-providers-submarine-cable-holdings-list

    • walrus01May 2021

      what I described above would be at layers 1 and 2 in the OSI model (the cable itself and underlying physical assets)

      a company like Cogent, HE, they're providing at layer 3 the routers, network engineering, IP space (in many cases, not all, mostly for enterprise customers), and what is known as "IP transit" - transiting a customer's traffic through their network to all of their peers. And maintaining the cost of buying all those inter-city transport circuits to link all of their routers within their AS together.

      https://www.teliacarrier.com/knowledge-hub/what-is-guides/what-is-ip-transit.html

      https://www.thousandeyes.com/learning/techtorials/transit-provider

      https://blog.telegeography.com/what-is-ip-transit-definition

    • virtuallynathanMar 2016

      To put those numbers into standard transit pricing using US-East (AWS):

      Up to 10 TB / month - $30/Mbps

      Next 350 TB / month - $16.50/Mbps

      Traffic within the same Region - $3.50/Mbps

      Traffic to another region - $6.50/Mbps

      The outbound traffic starts at $45/Mbps in AsiaPac and $85/Mbps in Latin America.

      In the US and most of the EU, at >1Gbps (~350TB/mo) volume, transit pricing is well under $1/Mbps. Most of Asia should be under $10/Mbps, and south america is quite a bit higher, but not $70/Mbps.

      See: https://www.telegeography.com/press/press-releases/2015/09/09/ip-transit-prices-continue-falling-major-discrepancies-remain/index.html

      http://blog.telegeography.com/bandwidth-and-ip-pricing-trends-in-15-minutes

    Related

    APNIC Blogblog.apnic.net253 people

    Internet protocols are changing

    APNIC Blog
    Company · last shared 2026
    Noahpinionnoahpinion.blog422 people

    Why is China smashing its tech industry?

    Noahpinion
    Personal · last shared 2026
    Netflix Tech Blognetflixtechblog.com363 people

    The Case of the Extra 40ms

    Netflix Tech Blog
    Company · last shared 2026
    Google AI Blogai.googleblog.com596 people

    Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

    Google AI Blog
    Company · last shared 2026
    Netcraft Newsnews.netcraft.com205 people

    The Meteoric Rise of DigitalOcean

    Netcraft News
    Company · last shared 2023
    Physics arXiv Blogmedium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog119 people

    The Growing Impact of Old Scientific Papers

    Physics arXiv Blog
    Publication · last shared 2026
    Netflix Blogblog.netflix.com79 people

    The Case Against ISP Tolls

    Netflix Blog
    Company · last shared 2015
    Segment Blogsegment.com242 people

    Goodbye Microservices: From 100s of problem children to 1 superstar

    Segment Blog
    Company · last shared 2025