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    Using ground relays with Starlink

    Mark Handley

    5 HN recommenders · recommended in 4 months, 2020

    YouTube

    10:15 · 506K views · Dec 21, 2019

    Mark Handley of UCL explains, with simulation visualizations, how early Starlink satellites without inter-satellite links could still give low-latency wide-area communication by hopping via ground relays. He shows it can beat fibre on many long paths.

    Cited in Starlink latency debates as a clear visual analysis showing sub-100ms latency is plausible even without inter-satellite links.

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    12 comments from Hacker News

    1. @thamerOct 2020· in “Starlink Packet Routing”

      I would highly recommend the video linked from this article: this video It's a simulation of the various ways in which the Starlink network could be arranged to route between satellites and ground stations; very detailed and super interesting.

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    2. @sneakJun 2020· in “Realtime Starlink Satellite Map”

      You don't need inter-satellite links for low latency, as Mark Handley has elegantly pointed out in his incredible video. I don't think internet access will amount to even 50% of the revenue of Starlink. this video

      Strongly recommendsView on HN
    3. @cagenutJun 2020· in “FCC has “serious doubts” that SpaceX can deliver latencies under 100ms”

      If you want a really great visualization and latency estimates for starlink check out the models and videos this guy came up with: [LINK] this video The comment from the FCC about it not accounting for "processing [&] routing" is kindof nonsense on its face, those are not novel problems they're already done by ever other router and switch, including several other satellite networks.

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    4. @sneakJun 2020· in “Realtime Starlink Satellite Map”

      The orbital planes top parts are all up there at high latitudes. The circle you are seeing is actually made up of several different orbital planes that swoop down toward/past the equator and then up/down to 60 degrees N/S. Seeing them move will make it clearer. Here’s an awesome visual explanation with a ton of other cool info: this video

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    5. @sacred_numbersJun 2020· in “Realtime Starlink Satellite Map”

      A ground station doesn't have to actually be on the ground. They could park a boat in the ocean between London and NYC with equipment to act as a repeater. This YouTube video (along with others on this channel) does a good job of explaining how this could work. [ this video ]

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