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    The hidden background noise that can catch criminals

    Tom Scott

    3 HN recommenders · recommended in 7 months, 2022–2025

    YouTube

    5:31 · 5.8M views · Dec 20, 2021

    Tom Scott explains Electrical Network Frequency analysis, where hum from the power grid in a recording is matched against grid logs to date and place it. He talks to a researcher and sets them a challenge.

    The go-to short, accessible explainer for mains hum forensics, linked whenever recording authenticity or timestamps come up.

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    8 comments from Hacker News

    1. @subparFeb 2023· in “How to date a recording using background electrical noise”

      If this is interesting to you or your kids, here's a less detailed but pretty accessible video [1] explaining how mains hum forensics work, complete with British accent. [1] this video

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    2. @AnotherGoodNameAug 2022· in “Extracting Audio from Visual Information”

      If you haven't already seen tom Scott's video on background noise giving the location of a recording due to power line frequencies being subtly different I recommend it. this video

      RecommendsView on HN
    3. @GroxxFeb 2023· in “How to date a recording using background electrical noise”

      A video on the same subject: this video I really enjoy Tom Scott. Everything he puts out is wonderfully concise.

      RecommendsView on HN
    4. @raphaeljAug 2023· in “Ask HN: Tell us about your project that's not done yet but you want feedback on”

      I'm writing a open-source library ( [LINK] ) and a webapp ( [LINK] ) that detects the Utility Grid noise emitted by electrical devices (A/C, motors, appliances ...) from Video/Audio recording. It then tries to date the recording by matching it to historical data. The signal processing part is getting decent. I'm still trying to collect more reference signals in RU, UK, China and Japan. Tom Scott made a video about the idea: this video

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    5. @sschuellerNov 2024· in “Ask HN: Are there strategies for content creators to prove their location?”

      Probably not practical but there was an interesting video by Tom Scott where investigators used the electrical hum background noise to determine when something was recorded. Maybe there is a way to audio record something to prove location. this video

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