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A short clip of Madeleine Albright saying the price of the deaths of Iraqi children from sanctions was worth it, uploaded with political commentary about Iran.
HN commenters cite the clip critically as evidence of US sanctions policy and its human cost.
12 comments from Hacker News
It's a very difficult story to report on because 1) the people who own your institution may be involved on some level, 2) all legitimate sources of novel material information will have been destroyed, 3) interviews are worthless because everybody who we know about who would have anything interesting to say are also both implicated and endangered, and there are so many kooks claiming to know things that it would be impossible to sort them out of the people who we don't know about. It's bizarre that we even think that this story would have an outcome. A number of the completely arbitrary people we shower laurels on under crony capitalism like to have sex with runaway/endangered teenagers under completely safe and shielded circumstances. They disguised payment by parking money in a fake (investment fund/tax advisory structure/real estate partnership) with a guy who spent his entire life procuring for and protecting them. He probably kept blackmail material that got him out of the first prosecution, and lost control of that blackmail material before the next prosecution. Clinton's sanctions on Iraq killed a half million children. That's more important than the fact that he may have abused teenagers on a sex plane/island, and he still speaks at the Democratic convention. We know that he manipulated a young intern into sex while on the job, and suspect he may be a serial sex abuser/rapist, and we try to make his wife president. We all know about "pussy-grabbing" Trump. We need to g
What? If you didn't sound so serious I would think your comment is meant to be a parody. > Very little of this is actually true, at least with regards to what the U.S. does internally. The majority of the OP's comment is not about domestic US politics, it's about support of dictatorships abroad. I'm guessing you are not very familiar with the history of Latin america, you should read up on that before making comments like this again. By the way, the US backed ex-president of Guatemala was just found guilty of genocide[1], Hillary Clinton said Egypt's dictator Mubarak was a "friend of her family", and the US strongly backs the regime in Saudi Arabia which is one of the most repressive in the entire middle east. When Madeleine Albright was asked if she thought the death of half a million Iraqi children due to the sanctions was too high a price to pay, she said "I think...the price is worth it"[2]. > The U.S. government very rarely ignores the Constitution Are you aware that it was recently revealed that Henry Kissinger was recorded saying "The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer"[3] Or are you familiar with the regime of secret law that surrounds drone assassinations, do you think that just because the president can get his lawyer to write him a permission slip that it makes assassinating US citizens abroad constitutional? What about locking people up in Guantanamo bay without a trial? What about torture? What about the 4th amendment. Do you ev
Okay...and? I said that neither China nor Russia are good actors (when I said invasions, I meant active ones, but I get your point), however, the U.S. is worse. -The Russian invasion of both Ukraine and Georgia, summed together, had a civilian deathtoll of 4000+ -If we throw in the first/second Chechen war as well, we get a TOTAL civilian deathtoll of ~70k+ The U.S. killed 500k+ CHILDREN (not even accounting for adult civilians) with its Iraq sanctions (before the invasion), this is just ONE country of the MANY countries the U.S. has been a participant in destabilizing in the last two decades (and we're not even talking about Korea/Vietnam/supplying Saddam with chemical weapons/Gulf War/South American interventions) this video If you want to look at it from a per capita standpoint, the U.S. has killed far, far more civilians than Russia has (not that this justifies even the death of a SINGLE civilian), but one must objectively come to the realization that the U.S. is the biggest force for civilian mass murder in the world. You can dress it up as "it was for democracy and freedom", but I don't think anyone buys that anymore. They don't even sell it to us as that anymore, now its for "national security", which is the same excuse Russia and China make as well.
>BTW, slavery STILL exists in many of those parts of the world. We know it still exists and one example is at the fault of the USA there is now open slave trade in Libya [1]. We also still have legal slavery in our prison system as a law. 500,000 dead in Iraq due to illegal wars, laughed at and claimed as 'good' [2]. Cambodia, Laos, Iraq, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Korea, Libya, the list doesn't end! The world would likely be a much better place if the USA didn't have it's fingers in everything, everywhere, nearly every country, killing people in mass , all around the world for decades [3][4]. The first chapter, the preface even, of Noam Chomsky's 'Manufacturing Consent' goes into extraordinary detail about USA's history of genocide and atrocities all around the world, and it's all totally sourced in full. I suggest everyone read it. I've seen estimates between 6 million and 20 million killed by USA in wars since WW1, and that's only by war and conflict, most absolutely provoked by the USA. [1] [LINK] [2] this video [3] [LINK] [4] [LINK]
Knowing that people have died, she gave her personal opinion that she personally supported it[0]. That's a large part of the reason why she's disliked. It's because she advocates for genocide. If you replace "Iraqis" with "Jews" and have someone say that the deaths of half a million Jewish children is "worth it" nobody will be in this comment section trying to talk about honoring the deceased or suggesting everyone has good and bad sides. [0] this video