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    34. Maya Shankar Is Changing People’s Behavior — and Her Own

    People I (Mostly) Admire · Aug 8, 2026 · 45 min
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    She used to run a behavioral unit in the Obama administration, and now has a similar role at Google. Maya and Steve talk about the power (and limits) of behavioral economics and also how people respond to change — the topic of her new podcast A Slight Change of Plans. This episode originally aired on July 2nd, 2021.

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