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    172. A New Kind of University

    People I (Mostly) Admire · Dec 6, 2025 · 52 min
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    Michael Crow is the president of Arizona State University, which U.S. News & World Report has called the most innovative school in the country for 11 years running. He tells Steve about why higher education needs to change, and how A.S.U. is leading the way. Plus: Steve has an announcement about the podcast.