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    Cover of Human Evasion

    Human Evasion

    Celia Green · 1969

    Productivity & Self-ImprovementPsychology & Behavior
    Open LibraryAmazon
    Stats for nerds
    4recommend
    6mentions
    5people
    2013–2021years
    83% recommend17% neutral

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    1. metroholografixJan 2021
      Celia Green [1] has written extensively about the damage that can be done to precocious children by agents of the collective.

      Her books "Advice to Clever Children" [2] and the philosophical magnum opus, "The Human Evasion" [3] are must-reads for anyone trying to navigate this particular domain.

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celia_Green

      [2] https://www.amazon.com/Advice-Clever-Children-Celia-Green/dp...

      [3] http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=C14F0FE5507047484ED5CCCF...

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    2. armitronMay 2018
      * Read 'The Human Evasion' by Celia green [1]

      * Watch 'Neurons to Nirvana' [2]

      Instead of avoiding the issue or running head-first into escapism (like most of the responses here are urging you to do), I advise you fully embrace it by exploring the 'inner space':

      + Do psychedelic drugs (mushrooms, lsd, DMT, ketamine) Lots of them. When peak experiences manifest and your reality is in shambles, give it some time to absorb and integrate what happened.

        Don't burn yourself out like some street freak, the objective here 
        is not to escape but to SEE. When integration takes place, go back 
        to more psychedelics. You're an explorer.
      
      + Meditation is good too but psychedelics are better and work faster.

      [1] http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/humevas.html

      [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UlAMocYXQw

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    3. sunkencityFeb 2018
      clearly the author is not hip to The Human Evasion by Celia Green. Those guys were just all OK with choosing a slightly different reality, because the mainstream reality tunnel is also equally flawed, and less interesting

        Human beings live in a state of mind called 'sanity' 
        on a small planet in space. They are not quite sure 
        whether the space around them is infinite or not (either 
        way it is unthinkable). If they think about time, they 
        find it inconceivable that it had a beginning. It is 
        also inconceivable that it did not have a beginning. 
        Thoughts of this kind are not disturbing to 'sanity', 
        which is obviously a remarkable phenomenon and deserving 
        more recognition.
      
      http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/humevas.html
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    4. armitronDec 2016
      Even if "you" (who/what is "you" by the way?) do understand the principle "you" have mentioned, the mind will experience cognitive dissonance. It can't be avoided as it happens on a layer below conscious perception.

      "You" seem to think that beliefs exist on a conscious self-aware layer of thought, thus "you" should be aware of them but if "you" have done any serious psychonautics or experienced traumatic events in childhood, "you" will realize that is not the case. It takes a lot more than simple affirmation to rid "yourself" of such demons. Reading books about ceremonial magick and the techniques that had to be invented over the years to deal with such problems can be very enlightening, if not fascinating.

      So, when the mind experiences cognitive dissonance, the effects propagate to the upper layers and "you" may become aware of them. I guess my point (through experience) is that as long as there is a "you" there to begin with, cognitive dissonance and dissociation will be problems that "you" will have to deal with :-)

      As to your original question, it has long been my view that "most people" are not self-aware enough for such matters to even register. Even those who do have the curiosity and inclination, don't really like spending a lot of time in that UNCOMFORTABLE space, and quickly reach for the nearest distraction or escape (living in a make-believe dream world) to help them cope with daily life. When the luster starts to fade, a new dream bubble (new goals and aspirations) is quickly conjured and entered.

      I highly recommend Celia Green's "The Human Evasion" [1] to you, something tells me you will enjoy it very much.

      [1] http://deoxy.org/evasion/

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    5. merikssonSep 2013
      It is true that almost no one analyzes sanity. Your comment reminds me a lot of a particular book on the topic, The Human Evasion by Celia Green. If you are not familiar with it already, you might be interested in checking it out:

      http://deoxy.org/evasion/1.htm

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    6. arthevMay 2019
      For a counterpoint, see Celia Green's 'Human Evasion' (available at http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/humevas.html ), which argues that preoccupation with the social sphere is just a psychological defense mechanism against one's finiteness and limitations.
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