Exploring language with Logo

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1. bmitcAug 2022
   > "The LOGO system supports two different (by no means disjoint) environments: the Turtle, Graphics and Musicbox world (ie: peripheral devices which are controlled by a command language) and the LISP world."

   Whelp, the lack of an Oxford comma there really through me for a loop until I continued reading. Anyway...

   > "Our experiences, especially with young students, indicate that programming in LOGO may serve as a bridge between natural language communication and reasoning and the formal and abstract symbols and reasoning in mathematics and programming languages."

   If anyone is interested in this, there are the following books:

   * Exploring Language with Logo: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0262570653

   * Visual Modeling with Logo: A Structured Approach to Seeing: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0262530694

   * Turtle Geometry: The Computer as a Medium for Exploring Mathematics: https://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Geometry-Mathematics-Artificia...

   * Computer Science Logo Style: http://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~bh/v1-toc2.html

   It's disappointing to me that Logo died out and didn't remain around or evolve, and I find it a bit sad that many kids are getting introduced to programming via something like Python or Scratch. I feel there's still space for Logo, and it would be cool to see an easily downloadable and installable version of it.

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2. bmitcMay 2022
   These types of books are my favorite style. I typically use whatever language I'm trying to learn and get more practice with (usually F#, Elixir, or Racket) instead of whatever the book suggests, if it does suggest one (usually Python or some OOP language). But sometimes the language used in the book is fun, like Logo or Prolog.

   * Mazes for Programmers (by the same author of The Ray Tracer Challenge but is not as language agnostic)

   * The Elements of Computing Systems: Building a Modern Computer from First Principles

   * Programming Machine Learning: From Coding to Deep Learning

   * Writing an Interpreter in Go and Writing a Compiler in Go (both by the same author)

   * Introducing Blockchain with Lisp: Implement and Extend Blockchains with the Racket Language

   * Exploring Language with Logo

   * Visual Modeling with Logo

   * Turtle Geometry: The Computer as a Medium for Exploring

   * Thinking as Computation: A First Course (uses Prolog to solve various problems in small projects)

   * Functional Web Development with Elixir, OTP, and Phoenix: Rethink the Modern Web App

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3. GregBuchholzDec 2014
   >From this perspective nothing beats BASIC.

   From what I've seen by teaching my kids to program, Logo has Basic beat. And it is not just for kids, I've been consistently impressed by the number of great books I've been reading which have incidentally used Logo.

   Turtle Geometry: The Computer as a Medium for Exploring Mathematics

   Exploring Language with Logo

   Mindstorms

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4. bmitcJun 2021
   Based on a recent thread on Logo, I went on a Logo book searching binge. I found this book series by Brian Harvey, and they indeed look interesting. Right now, I am awaiting delivery of Exploring Language with Logo, which I am really excited about. I admittedly don’t plan on using Logo but instead will use either F# or Racket to go through the book. It seems there were a lot of neat exploration books published with Logo. I wish this style of book was more en vogue today.
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