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    Gervais PrincipleVenkatesh Rao

    Gervais Principle

    Venkatesh Rao · 2013

    Business & Management
    Open LibraryAmazon
    Stats for nerds
    14recommend
    22mentions
    17people
    2010–2026years
    77% recommend23% neutral

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    What Hacker News says

    1. alexpotatoJan 2026
      For those looking for a "successor theory" to the Dilbert Principle, I highly suggest Venkatesh Rao's Gervais Principle [0].

      To use Dilbert terms: Adams would say that PHB is dumb and he is promoted into management as that's where he can do the least damage.

      Rao would say that PHB is actually put there by upper management to be a combination of:

      - fall guy/lightning rod to take blame for failed projects

      - dumb subordinates are less likely to try to take your job (dumb doesn't mean unintelligent. Rather, Rao uses the term "clueless" to highlight smart people who are not political)

      0 - https://www.ribbonfarm.com/the-gervais-principle/

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    2. caprockJan 2025
      I'll suggest some, all very different.

      1. The Software Developer's Career Handbook: A Guide to Navigating the Unpredictable by Michael Lopp

      This is about all the things around being a programmer at work.

      2. The Soul of a New Machine by Tracy Kidder

      This is a well regarded book about an engineering team building a Data General computer in the late 70s. So the lessons are indirect, but it's a pleasant and technical read. It reads almost like a novel.

      Separately, I think it's worth reading at least a couple things that are more cynical. It's helpful for balance. On that front I'd say...

      1. The Gervais Principle by Venkatesh Rao

      This is a lengthy blog series (or ebook). It uses a metaphor about The Office, but it's still plenty relatable if you didn't watch that show. The abstraction this lays over modern knowledge work is quite interesting. It's a weird combination of demoralizing and liberating.

      2. The Peter Principle by Peter and Hull

      I remember reading this book and having trouble understanding if it was real or some form of satire. If I read it again now, many years later, I'd probably understand it better.

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    3. ramthehackDec 2024
      The Gervais Principle by Venkatesh Rao

      I did Not understand my work Environment anymore but this blogpost perfectly explained it

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    4. belligerontOct 2023
      Seems similar to what Venkatesh Rao has written about "The Clueless" in his "The Gervais Principle" article.

      It is a really great read: https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-...

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    5. dredmorbiusSep 2023
      "Geeks, MOPs, and sociopaths in subculture evolution" (2015)

      [A]s soon as subcultures start getting really interesting, they get invaded by muggles, who ruin them. Subcultures have a predictable lifecycle, in which popularity causes death. Eventually—around 2000—everyone understood this, and gave up hoping some subculture could somehow escape this dynamic.... The muggles who invade and ruin subcultures come in two distinct flavors, mops and sociopaths, playing very different roles. This insight was influenced by Venkatesh Rao’s Gervais Principle,[1] an analysis of workplace dynamics. Rao’s theory is hideous, insightful nihilism; I recommend it.... The sociopaths ... work out how to monetize mops—which the fanatics were never good at. With better publicity materials, the addition of a light show, and new, more crowd-friendly product, admission fees go up tenfold, and mops are willing to pay.

      <https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths>

      ________________________________

      Notes:

      1. <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F9IV64W/?tag=meaningness-20>

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    6. terminal_dDec 2022
      Books that I read (and re-read) in 2022 that I'd recommend to folks on HN. Ordered from most enjoyable / insightful to least.

      - Edward O. Wilson - Biophilia

      - Will Durant - The Lessons Of History

      - Freeman J. Dyson - A Many-Colored Glass

      - Venkatesh Rao - The Gervais Principle

      - Ray Bradbury - The Martian Chronicles

      - Colin Wilson - The Outsider

      - Stanislaw Lem - Cyberiad

      - Antonio Martinez - Chaos Monkeys

      - Ben Horowitz - What You Do Is Who You Are

      - Alice Flaherty - The Midnight Disease

      - Oliver Sacks - Musicophilia

      - Ken Binmore - Rational Decisions

      - Josh Kaufman - The Personal MBA

      Edit: All these books made the cut, there were others that I never completed / disliked / wouldn't recommend, or were just plain mediocre / bad.

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