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- I do hope the No Kings protests can grow into a movement beyond Trump because he is just a symptom of a larger issue and the real “kings” are not elected officials, those people are just their servants. Virtue Hoarders by Catherine Liu is a great book on this topic.
- A good book in this topic, Virtue Hoarders by Catherine Liu.
https://www.upress.umn.edu/9781517912253/virtue-hoarders/
https://classautonomy.info/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Foreru...
- Catherine Liu's short book Virtue Hoarders has this thesis, arguing that the class that this language is a marker of is the professional managerial class (PMC), a social class originally posited by the John and Barbara Ehrenreich in the 70s. I can't recommend the book too highly but I think it was correct in most of its observations.
- this was a pretty interesting recent read on pmc https://www.amazon.ca/Virtue-Hoarders-against-Professional-M...
Virtue Hoarders: The Case against the Professional Managerial Class - University of Minnesota Press
- Chris Hedges recently interviewed Catherine Liu, the author of Virtue Hoarders: The Case against the Professional Managerial Class. They are a mostly invisible spectrum of plutocratic aristocracy who essentially replaced the middle class and gained immense wealth, power, and sense of entitlement.
- This. It isn't (positive) leadership. It reminds me of a book Chris Hedges whose author was recently interviewed.[0,1] The worker bees vs. the managers. ICs including tech SWEs/PEs/SEs/EEs at Meta can become managers and a part of this problem, they haven't necessarily drank the Zuck Kool-Aid. Actually, only some (not all) of the senior IC6+ who might become managers are in this camp and not all managers (maybe 5-10%) espouse these beliefs. I'm kinda glad really that I got the ax on the 2nd round in 2023. (I was WFH semi remote. It's funny they tried to interview/rehire me in similar roles, but only for MPK or similar major hubs.)
0. Liu, Catherine. Virtue Hoarders: The Case against the Professional Managerial Class. University of Minnesota Press, 2021. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.5749/j.ctv1fkgbjx. Accessed 14 Feb. 2025.
