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    Cover of Legacy of Ashes

    Legacy of Ashes

    Tim Weiner · 2007

    Here is the hidden history of the CIA: why eleven presidents and three generations of CIA officers have been unable to understand the world; why nearly every CIA director has left the agency in worse shape than he found it; and how these failures have profoundly jeopardized United States national security. For sixty years, the CIA has managed to maintain a formidable reputation in spite of its terrible record, burying its blunders in top-secret archives. Its mission was to know the world - when it did not succeed, it set out to change the world instead. The author offers the first definitive history of the CIA, based on more than 50,000 documents, primarily from the archives of the CIA itself, and hundreds of interviews with CIA veterans, including ten Directors of Central Intelligence.

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    1. dkdcioAug 2025
      from previous reading up on this, it is my understanding this was most likely for show for the committee (this was public information after all) and was not a real device used, because it could not work

      skimming this article is also seems based on a false premise…the church committee did not hold the CIA accountable. they openly destroyed documents, fairly openly murdered their own employees, broke laws, etc.

      see “Legacy of Ashes”

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    2. jorviMar 2025
      Legacy of Ashes is a great book about the CIA on this, on how they basically stumbled into some of their biggest accomplishments.
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    3. tschwimmerMay 2024
      A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn

      Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner

      On the Genealogy of Morality by Nietzsche

      Zero to One by Peter Thiel and Blake Masters

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    4. bugglebeetleJan 2024
      I’m not sure this follows. Intelligence and federal police services routinely “manage” crime to various ends. Go read Tim Weiner’s Legacy of Ashes or Enemies for myriad examples.
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    5. flimsypremiseAug 2023
      So many Americans naively believe this fairy story about their country, when the reality is a lot darker and more brutal. The intervention in Iran was neither an isolated event, nor was even close to the first coup that the US perpetrated at the behest of business interests. Starting with Samoa and Hawaii in the 1800s, an extremely violent occupation of the Philippines in the early part of the 20th century, and interventions in Honduras, Cuba, Nicaragua, Haiti, The Dominican Republic and Costa Rica, the US had a long history of this sort of behavior before Iran. Often undertaken under the guise of fighting communism or some other nebulous threat, these acts were in fact naked money grabs intended to secure the dominion of US corporate interests, established during colonialism, over land, labor and assets like oil, lumber and precious minerals in countries where local governments were attempting to seize back control of these assets, and in many cases grant them back to the often poor and rural communities that should have owned them in the first place.

      Tim Weiner's book Legacy of Ashes is a good overview of the many "interventions" the US undertook to replace regimes that threatened the economic domination of the West. For the lazy, Wikipedia provides a decent list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

      It's a bizarre sort of internal contradiction that allows people to believe in the overwhelming power of the United States while refusing to accept that the exercise of that power has shaped pretty much everything about the modern world. From Korea, where the US propped up a puppet regime staffed by Japanese collaborators post-WW II, leading to a civil war and partition, to Iran, to Russia, which was bankrupted and impoverished by US interests after the end of the Cold War. Those same interests then hand-picked a certain Vladimir Putin as a successor to their man Yeltsin. Unfortunately, most Americans are entirely ignorant of what actually occurred during these events because they were either never reported in the news, or reported in the distorted and propagandistic fashion that the US media tends to adopt.

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    6. photochemsynJun 2023
      If you want the real story on current CIA tradecraft (at least on the digital side):

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vault_7

      For the rest of it, see books like "Legacy of Ashes" by Tim Weiner, or "Acid Dreams: The Complete Social History of LSD: The CIA and the Sixties". A lot of that is about CIA recruitment and influence operations, which is perhaps not the kind of 'tradecraft' the CIA likes to popularize, e.g.:

      https://coffeeordie.com/charles-manson-cia

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