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    Cover of ADHD 2. 0

    ADHD 2. 0

    Edward M. Hallowell, John J. Ratey · 2021

    World-renowned authors present a revolutionary new idea: What if people viewed impulsivity, distractibility, and hyperactivity as personality traits instead of symptoms? Furthermore, what if those traits could be valued and harnessed for the creativity and entrepreneurial spirit they tend to breed?

    Psychology & Behavior
    Open LibraryAmazon
    Stats for nerds
    11recommend
    17mentions
    17people
    2021–2026years
    65% recommend35% neutral

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    1. thenaturalistJan 2025
      Hi there fellow ADHDer,

      Not really a blog, but the most comprehensive website I know with essay-length info on all things ADHD is this one: https://www.adxs.org/en

      Otherwise r/ADHD and r/ADHDers are great resources on reddit.

      ADHD 2.0 from Hallowel and Ratey is a pretty standard book.

      That being said, there is no real replacement for medication when it comes to efficacy.

      Have you tried a different medication?

      I had to switch mine due to side effects and the new type has been working for me like a charm ever since.

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    2. hiluxDec 2024
      You're not alone. Join ADHD support groups. Kaiser has a few. There are other groups (or sub-groups) among tech people online.

      Of all the popular books, I liked The Mini ADHD Coach. Also ADHD 2.0.

      36 is young. Be glad that you understand yourself better for your next 20-30 working years, and be sure to get a good prescription for meds

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    3. jjj123May 2024
      Very strange to me that people in the comments are jumping from OPs “I developed late onset ADHD” to “OP doesn’t have ADHD because late onset ADHD doesn’t exist”

      Isn’t it every bit as likely OP has had ADHD their whole life and is just now noticing the symptoms/the symptoms have recently been exacerbated in some way?

      To answer your question directly: I’ve been on stimulants for years. They helped me a ton, but more importantly they’ve helped me learn behaviors I can use when I’m off of stimulants to keep my focus where I need it. After 10 years, I’m taking them less and less, maybe 2 days a week. There are plenty of downsides to them (Andy Warhol said stimulants make you think the small problems are the big problems) so ideally you can use them as a tool not a crutch.

      I just read a book called ADHD 2.0 which was very enlightening for me, I recommend it.

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    4. arafalovDec 2023
      If you had been diagnosed, it may be worth giving it a try. You may be able to convince a doctor to give you a one-month supply of fast acting pills to evaluate the results, based on old diagnosis. This will give you more than enough baseline for much more detailed discussion and/or action clarity.

      I don't have ADHD (or think I do not anyway), but my wife (late 30s) has been diagnosed as an adult and started taking Vyvanse six months ago.

      This is fast acting, slow release, non-accumulative medecine. Her doze kicks in within 20 minutes and slowly tapers off over the day. There is probably some minor residual effect crossing into the second day, mostly because if she takes it for many days stright, she needs a day or two break.

      Her taking Vyvance saved our marriage and she is feels that the person she was before taking Vyvance is "gone". The day she took the first doze, she wrote about 20 pages of notes of what was different. Off-pill, she could not write 20 pages on demand, online in full hyper-focus mode. The pill is less effective now, but it sure still makes a difference.

      I think having "on pill" and "off pill" perspective on the same issue by the "same person"(you/her) can help break a lot of bad patterns where the person thinks their position is the only valid one. Suddenly, they get a range of options from the "inside of their head". It also allows her to still have access to traditional creative ADHD super-powers (off-pill days) but then balance it with productivity of on-pill days.

      As an anecdote. Before the pill if we would walk up to a traffic light blinking green with 20 seconds left - she would refuse to cross. Just too worried about not having enough time. Probably not ADHD itself, but one of co-morbidities. But also maybe not having enough focus to make a snap decision. On pill, she will cross with 5 seconds left. Because she has the focus and the drive.

      As another anecdote. Our arguments/negotations (pre-pill) would be like floating on a stormy sea, always changing direction and shape of the argument. And even if we reached a conclusion, it would only be about the very last point discussed, ignoring the journey. The first serious discussion "on the pill" felt not that dissimilar, but at the end she turned to me and said "So we discussed these 6 things (named 1, named 2, ...) and agreed on X". I was blown away, as I was very used to the old ways.

      Books I found more helpful than others:

      * Melissa Orlov's book about ADHD and marriage: https://archive.org/details/adhdeffectonmarr0000orlo * https://www.amazon.ca/ADHD-2-0-Essential-Strategies-Distract... - this one, among other good bits, includes a table of all ADHD medecines and their effects, including a comment that off-brand Concerta (I believe) does not actually work

      P.s. She also feels that Focus Factor non-prescription pills work partially (she discovered these pre-pill and still uses them on off-pill day). I am reserving an opinion and provide a link purely to clarify the brand, as the name alone gets lots of matches: https://www.focusfactor.com/products/focus-factor-original?v...

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    5. scnsNov 2023
      Sadly won't have time to read all comments, maybe someone said it allready.

      Once a commenter here on HN wrote that meditation helps him better than anything else. Still have back into the groove of a regular schedule. The best book on the topic might be Mind Illuminated by John Yates, got it from a recommendation here on HN.

      Another good one is ADHD 2.0 by Hallowell and Ratey.

      Knowledge helps.

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    6. wittjeffJan 2023
      Your description overlaps quite a bit with someone who has ADHD Inattentive Type. I suggest checking out https://www.amazon.com/ADHD-2-0-Essential-Strategies-Distrac...
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