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    Cover of The China Dream

    The China Dream

    Liu Mingfu · 2015

    Politics & Society
    Open LibraryAmazon
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    1recommend
    8mentions
    3people
    2017–2020years
    25% recommend75% neutral

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    1. justinzollarsDec 2020
      You could read a number of books on this subject. The China Dream, On China, or Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides’ Trap? The Economist is a good magazine, with almost weekly updates on this topic.

      We've been surpassed in PPP, Global Trade, Industrial Output etc. China's steel production is 1 billion tons a year, the US 80 million tons. They poured as much concrete in the last 10 years as we poured in the 20th century. In just a few years we will be surpassed by GDP and witin 25 years China's GDP will be double the United States.

      China's rise is not disputed.

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    2. justinzollarsMar 2018
      I'm reading a very good book called "China Dream: Great Power Thinking and Strategic Power Posture in the Post-American Era"

      I haven't finished it so I'll save you all from a premature review, but from what I have read so far I believe we need a more serious national conversation on China and the role that technology companies play in enabling dictatorships.

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    3. justinzollarsAug 2020
      After reading many books on China I learned China values social stability over everything. In its 4,000 year history they have seen the dangers of social instability. We are a very young country and haven't seen what real chaos can look like.

      (These ideas are from Henry Kissinger's on China, Destined for War by Graham T. Allison and The China Dream by Liu Mingfu)

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    4. justinzollarsAug 2020
      > This is a typical orientalist take.

      Yes. As I mentioned these ideas are not mine but advanced by 3 books which explain the Chinese perspective. These books are bipartisan and multinational and explain this principal.

      * Henry Kissinger's on China (Republican)

      * Destined for War by Graham T. Allison (Democrat - Joe Biden recommended book)

      * The China Dream by Liu Mingfu (Chinese PLA General)

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    5. 29_29Aug 2019
      The China Dream: Great Power Thinking and Strategic Posture in the Post-American Era

      https://www.amazon.com/China-Dream-Thinking-Strategic-Post-A...

      On China by Henry Kissinger:

      https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/on-china_henry-kissinger/26645...

      Destined for War - Graham Allison:

      https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/destined-for-war_graham-alliso...

      Lee Kuan Yew: The Grand Master's Insights on China, the United States, and the World:

      https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Kuan-Yew-Insights-international/d...

      See China with your own eyes!

      I also recommend traveling to China. I found this to be very eye opening, and to be honest, despite all of our great problems it made me so thankful to live in a free country.

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    6. justinzollarsJul 2018
      The China Dream: Great Power Thinking and Strategic Posture in the Post-American Era

      > Liu describes the 21st century relations between the United States and China as a “Marathon contest” in which the “Beijing Plan will replace the Washington Consensus” so that China would become a “Champion nation”. This is a question of who will rule the world in the 21st century. The implications are institutions and ideas we fundamentally value as Westerners: Our Democratic rules-based world order, Human Rights and The United Nations could become uprooted.

      The China Dream may scare you.

      Liu provides an interesting alternative perspective on American History, The American psyche and American strategic misconceptions. He also unwittingly reveals deep insecurities with respect to single party rule and global perceptions of China.

      This was an amazing strategic read and has opened my eyes to a new perspective.

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