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    Dream of the red chamber

    Tsʻao, Hsüeh-chʻin. · 1958

    For more than a century and a half, Dream of the Red Chamber has been recognized in China as the greatest of its novels, a Chinese Romeo-and-Juliet love story and a portrait of one of the world's great civilizations. Chi-chen Wang's translation is skillful, accurate and fascinating.

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    14% recommend86% neutral

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    1. apengwinOct 2020
      The title is a reference to Dream of the Red Chamber, one of the greatest novels ever written.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_of_the_Red_Chamber

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    2. zawerfJun 2018
      The "Four Great Classic Novels" from 14th-18th century China: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Chinese_Novels

      Specifically:

      Water Margin

      Romance of the Three Kingdoms

      Journey to the West

      Dream of the Red Chamber

      They are referenced in everything in asian media and there a bajillion tv/movie adaptations of them but they are relatively unknown in the west.

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    3. mdp2021Oct 2024
      Also see: https://www.newyorker.com/books/book-currents/francis-ford-c...

      With comments from Coppola about Riane Eisler's The Chalice and the Blade, but also Cao Xueqin's The Dream of the Red Chamber, William Bolitho's Twelve Against the Gods, Cole and Chinoy's project Directors on Directing, and Goethe's Elective Affinities

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    4. DiogenesKynikosJun 2024
      > The origins of Standarddeutsch trace back to Martin Luther's bible translation that exposed a huge audience to a very important text, which was most importantly also written to be approachable to that audience.

      If you want to go this route, then you could also say that the origins of Standard Chinese date back hundreds of years, to the language spoken by the imperial bureaucracy, or to massively popular works written in vernacular Chinese, like the Dream of the Red Chamber (late 1700s). There are always ancient antecedents that you can trace, but they become less and less directly related to the development of the modern language.

      Yes, the Luther Bible was an important influence on the development of a standard literary German, but if you want to trace the development of a standardized spoken dialect of German, you have to go to the 19th Century and the development of Bühnendeutsch ("stage German"), which because of its use in theater had to have a standard pronunciation.

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    5. _as_textApr 2024
      I kinda have this idea that while psychedelics like LSD are the easiest to catch a ride with, it is specifically tea that can get you furthest. When I was reading "Dream of the Red Chamber" some of the descriptions of tea drinking were really psychedelic, like being transported into a different realm of heavenly purity that permeates everything with effortless perfection, etc. Certainly I never experienced anything like this with any drug.
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    6. squaresmileFeb 2024
      And Dream of the Red Chamber to round up the four great Chinese classical novels
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