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    Web Performance Today

    webperformancetoday.com · Company blog · on HN since 2011

    Company blog on web performance, tracking page size growth, image loading, mobile latency and how speed affects business metrics.

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    What HN says

    HN commenters link it for data on page weight growth since 2010, a Walmart deck tying site speed to conversion, and progressive image rendering research.

    Stats for nerds
    28HN people shared it
    33linked in comments
    137story points
    Sep 2018last shared
    2012people per year2018

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      The average top 1,000 web page has grown 150% in three years
      1 person · 45 points · first shared 2013 · 55 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Has the average web page actually gotten smaller?
      1 person · 37 points · first shared 2014 · 6 comments on HN
    3. 3
      3G mobile performance is up to 10X slower than throttled broadband
      1 person · 8 points · first shared 2011 · Discussion on HN
    4. 4
      Progressive image rendering: Good or evil?
      3 people · 4 points · first shared 2014 · Discussion on HN
    5. 5
      Google's new “slow” label could revolutionize how we tackle web performance
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2015 · Discussion on HN
    6. 6
      The average web page has almost doubled in size since 2010
      4 people · 2 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      Latency reality check
      2 people · 2 points · first shared 2012 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      Latency 101: What is latency and why is it such a big deal?
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2012 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      How to use a waterfall chart to diagnose your website’s performance pains
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2014 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      Web performance and the 2012 US election
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2012 · Discussion on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • etlerJul 2013

      I have some data:

      http://w3techs.com/blog/entry/jquery_now_runs_on_every_second_website

      Of the top 10k sites 58.8% use jQuery. That's good!

      But only 26.6% use a cdn. Leaving only 15.6%. That's bad...

      But 94.2% use Google's. Which is still 14.7%! That's good!

      http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2013/03/18/http-archive-jquery/

      But only 1% use the newest version of jQuery. Leaving only 0.15%. That's bad...

      http://www.quora.com/User-Behavior/How-many-websites-does-an-average-user-visit-per-day

      But users visit on average 89 sites per month. Which gives us 12.5%. That's good!

      http://stevesouders.com/cache.php

      But default browser cache sizes are small. That's bad...

      http://www.webperformancetoday.com/2013/06/05/web-page-growth-2010-2013/

      But the average website is about 1MB so with a 50MB cache about 50 sites can be cached. Which leaves about 7.2%. That's... OK?

      OK. So I don't actually know if a cdn cache hit is all that likely, but the situation is a bit worse, and a bit better than most people think.

      Of course, using a cdn is still better than hosting yourself. If you bundle your jQuery then every time your site updates it needs to be redownloaded. If you serve it seperately on your domain, you won't have the distribution benefit of a cdn.

      Should you use Google's cdn instead of a different commercial cdn provider that's faster? In that case I'm not sure.

    • acdhaOct 2013

      That's also a minor side issue: it'll cost you a sub-1-second page load time but it doesn't cause the kinds of problems people are talking about where the backend components are overloaded to the point of failure.

      The size of healthcare.gov is actually well under the average:

      http://www.webpagetest.org/result/131010_ZG_X5C/1/details/

      (see http://www.webperformancetoday.com/2013/06/05/web-page-growth-2010-2013/)

      For comparison, look at WashingtonPost.com: it uses considerably more data and more total requests and yet the page loads much faster:

      http://www.webpagetest.org/result/131010_GG_XDK/

      If you look carefully, though, you'll see a) that they aren't setting Cache-Control headers and are setting ETags (both performance killers) and b) there's this weird staggered response behaviour which indicates something is seriously wrong. It seems to handle much better in Chrome - 3s vs 70! - so presumably there's some interaction with the browser going on as well:

      http://www.webpagetest.org/result/131010_ZW_XD6/1/details/

    • harlanlewisAug 2012

      Mobile bandwidth is somewhat of a red herring. While ubiquitous 4G isn't reality, most smartphones and networks are already capable of fairly high bandwidth.

      Latency is the bottleneck you should tackle first when addressing mobile performance, not asset size - the world has already spent a lot of time optimizing asset size for web delivery. But phones are bad at handling lots of requests. Serving a single high-resolution graphic will have significantly less impact on page rendering speed (and even more important, perceived rendering speed) than a handful of smaller assets which add up to the same size.

      For a real world example, a mobile phone can download and render a single large photo faster than the gaggle of javascript, css, and social network share icons typically presented next to it.

      Many have examined and written about this. Here's a blog article that Google ranks on the subject: http://www.webperformancetoday.com/2012/04/02/mobile-versus-desktop-latency/

    • fixermarkJan 2017

      On the six years or on the "hasn't improved things?"

      The six years is the age of the speed PageRank signal, according to the grandparent post.

      "Hasn't improved things," I had assumed 'the web is getting slower' was common knowledge, but here's an example of the family of articles you can quickly find on the subject: http://www.webperformancetoday.com/2015/07/08/news-sites-take-notice-of-slow-load-times/

    • aresantJul 2013

      I encountered an absolutely jaw dropping Walmart deck a while back correlating their site speed with conversion rate:

      http://www.webperformancetoday.com/2012/02/28/4-awesome-slides-showing-how-page-speed-correlates-to-business-metrics-at-walmart-com/

      Sounds like a great fit for Torbit, reading that deck last year made me instantly respect the team at work @ Walmart.com

    • philboDec 2016

      It's worth balancing this against other research showing that users often don't like the experience provided by progressive image rendering:

      http://www.webperformancetoday.com/2014/09/17/progressive-image-rendering-good-evil/

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