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    Pingdom Royal

    royal.pingdom.com · Company blog · on HN since 2007

    Pingdom's company blog, publishing web performance statistics, tech industry charts, and posts on infrastructure, open source, and internet trends.

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    What HN says

    HN links it for its data on browser share, site technology adoption, and Google's early design; commenters cite it mainly as a source for statistics.

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    234HN people shared it
    231linked in comments
    2.9Kstory points
    Jul 2020last shared
    2008people per year2020

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Nginx, the little Russian web server taking on the giants
      1 person · 318 points · first shared 2010 · 109 comments on HN
    2. 2
      IRC is dead, long live IRC
      6 people · 189 points · first shared 2012 · 167 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Hacker News is 44% 18-24 year olds, 77% male
      5 people · 134 points · first shared 2012 · 88 comments on HN
    4. 4
      Chrome at 20% market share, IE9 less than IE7
      3 people · 105 points · first shared 2011 · 57 comments on HN
    5. 5
      REST in peace, SOAP
      2 people · 100 points · first shared 2010 · 77 comments on HN
    6. 6
      Linux now on 42% of consumer computing devices
      1 person · 99 points · first shared 2012 · 88 comments on HN
    7. 7
      Google's new data center in Finland
      1 person · 92 points · first shared 2010 · 38 comments on HN
    8. 8
      Google Chrome’s amazing growth spurt. The top web browser by June 2012?
      1 person · 86 points · first shared 2011 · 62 comments on HN
    9. 9
      Why Android devs are losing money, and it’s not due to piracy
      1 person · 85 points · first shared 2010 · 73 comments on HN
    10. 10
      Graphs of money made by Microsoft, Apple, and Google from 1985 till today
      3 people · 82 points · first shared 2010 · 15 comments on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • rkallaJan 2011

      Agreed.

      Google shared with us early last year that the revenue split on Adsense is 68% (http://adsense.blogspot.com/2010/05/adsense-revenue-share.html) - meaning you keep 68% of what they are paid to run the ad and they keep 32%.

      You can imagine some very respectable proportion of their income every year is the 1/3 coming from spam/scraped/etc. adsense placements.

      Another interesting article on HN just new is that Google's algorithms already seem to know what crap content is and what good content is: http://blog.obiefernandez.com/content/2011/01/google-probably-knows-what-crap-results-are.html

      and my guess is that Google will only roll out improved search results when the cost to the company is great enough to justify the loss of income.

      It is a publicly traded company, I don't think Google can just cut out millions of dollars of revenue from their bottom line because they want to not be evil - the shareholders would probably ask for people's heads on platters.

      Of course only Google knows the extent of which their income-from-spam is, but I imagine it is significant otherwise they would have solved that problem already as the interest in Duck Duck GO, Blekko and Bing/Yahoo continues to rise/be-discussed-more (Don't know if the ACTUAL usage suggests that people are doing more than just talking or moving over to using different services full time)

      Google's compute power is other-worldly. This WP article doesn't do it justice:…

    • nikcubMar 2013

      You are sampling outside of Microsoft's market. For eg.

      * Instead of GitHub they use Codeplex [0]

      * Instead of web servers they sell network servers, a much larger market. Windows still holds 73% of this market, and growing. It is worth $20B a year and is much larger than the web server market [1]

      * Outlook is still the most popular mail client in the world (27%)

      * Office is Office, one of the most profitable business units in the world

      * 550M PC's are sold each year and 85% of them run Windows

      * Still 39% of the browser market [3]

      * There are Microsoft clients in the Fortune 100-500 that store more data than the entire public internet (taken as being 5 petabytes - most investment banks store data in petabyte scale)

      * Visual Studio is not only the most popular IDE, but also the highest selling and grossing [4]

      Your data points are based on open source and web servers, which are only a tiny fraction of the total computing and networking market. It is the remainder of that market where Microsoft dominates. I don't think they are even going to pretend to attempt to infiltrate that market, they have a much larger market to defend.

      I don't work within the Microsoft ecosystem any longer, but I did for over a decade. I agree with OP that Azure will win, all of my Microsoft development and admin friends are raving about it and moving their clients/organizations onto it.

      [0] http://codeplex.org

      [1]…

    • robomartinNov 2012

      There's nothing trivial about it. Following a book while being taught at a University over a semester is vastly different from what the OP is talking about. For example, he is talking about writing his own PCIe, SATA and USB drivers as well as, well, everything. He is not talking about starting with MINIX and a well-digested book that guides you through the process.

      In fact, your suggestion is exactly on point: The OP should pick-up Tannenbaum's book and take a year to implement everything in the book. Why a year? He is a web developer and, I presume, working. It will take more than time to learn what he does not know in order to even do the work. So, let's say a year.

      I would suspect that after doing that his view of what he proposed might just be radically different.

      For example, wait until he figures out that he has to write drivers for chip-to-chip interfaces such as SPI and I2C. Or that implementing a full USB stack will also require supporting the very legacy interfaces he wants to avoid. Or that writing low-level code to configure and boot devices such as DRAM memory controllers and graphics chips might just be a little tougher than he thought.

      There's a reason why Linux has had tens of thousands of contributors and millions of lines of code:

      http://royal.pingdom.com/2012/04/16/linux-kernel-development-numbers/

      ...and that's just the kernel.

    • hedoraJun 2020

      We covered software-induced disasters in my CS courses. This isn’t standard, which explains a lot about our profession.

      My two favorite examples were:

      The Therac-25 — it’s just frontend GUI code. Why test it? What could go wrong?

      The Siberian gas pipeline explosion of ‘82 — not technically an accident, but it shows the problem with testing untrustworthy code to correctness. It was also the biggest non-nuclear man-made explosion, at least at the time.

      The Russians had stolen some pipeline schematics from US companies. The theft was discovered before they stole the control software. Instead of stopping the software from being stolen, US intelligence modified it so an integer would overflow after a year (or two) of operation. The Russian economy would be ruined if the pipeline wasn’t operational in less time than it would take the bug to trigger, so it wouldn’t show up in testing.

      When it triggered, it slammed a bunch of valves shut, causing multiple parts of the network to explode at the same time.

      The US military’s seismologists detected it, and thought the Russians had detonated a new type of nuclear weapon. The military was going to escalate until the intelligence service told them they were responsible for the blast.

      Here’s a decent list of other incidents:

      https://royal.pingdom.com/10-historical-software-bugs-with-extreme-consequences/

    • wpietriDec 2018

      > Number of users? That's not even sure

      As far as I can tell, Slack has an order of magnitude more users. They were at 8m DAU back in May: https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/08/slack-hits-8-million-daily-active-users-with-3-million-paid-users/

      IRC was in long-term decline even before Slack: https://royal.pingdom.com/2012/04/24/irc-is-dead-long-live-irc/

      So my best guess is that Slack has at least an order of magnitude more users.

      But users is not exactly the metric I'm thinking of. It's when people say, "We need some way for us to communicate," Slack is the popular option. Even though I'd rather not use it, I'm in 8 right now. If you look through this thread, you'll find plenty of people concerned about how prominent it is in the open-source world, IRC's home ground.

      > IRC runs everywhere and does not need a fat browser or a RAM-and-CPU hungry application to enable "chat".

      I get this in theory. But RAM and CPU power are fantastically cheap. Conserving them to get a worse user experience is optimizing for the wrong thing.

      > but Slack sucks in many ways

      Sure. There are no perfect things. But Slack doesn't have to be perfect. It just had to be better than the competition. And for most people it manifestly is.

    • phylosopherJan 2012

      I'm a former Googler who managed the deployment of their content distribution network. Outside of the codebase challenges that nostrademons articulated very well, Google has to deal with various big company concerns including shipping and logistics, human resources, legal issues in the many countries it operates in, hardware development, datacenter management, etc. To do this they have many talented people across disciplines. I was constantly looking for people to join our team while still maintaining the high level of ability and innate Googliness that Google looks for in an employee. In many measurements Google is still understaffed. Check out Royal Pingdoms profit per employee. http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/05/17/apple-staff-profit-per-head/. The difference between 2008 to 2010 is incredible and factors in growth in employees. Google still needs to hire... not for world domination but to maintain and improve the services that we love.

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