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    Sixteen Ventures

    sixteenventures.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2010

    Sixteen Ventures covers SaaS growth, pricing, freemium models, sales and churn, written for software startup founders.

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    What HN says

    HN commenters point to it when discussing whether to charge, freemium versus free trial, and pre-launch growth; one says it changed their mind about freemium.

    Stats for nerds
    33HN people shared it
    25linked in comments
    159story points
    Jul 2020last shared
    2010people per year2020

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Get your SaaS or Cloud App to Sell Itself
      2 people · 61 points · first shared 2013 · 3 comments on HN
    2. 2
      SaaS Pricing Strategy: The 10x Rule
      1 person · 45 points · first shared 2014 · 16 comments on HN
    3. 3
      The Reality of Freemium in SaaS
      4 people · 14 points · first shared 2010 · 2 comments on HN
    4. 4
      Sixteen Ventures – 3 Keys to Capture More Email Leads
      1 person · 9 points · first shared 2014 · 8 comments on HN
    5. 5
      4 Sales Mistakes That Lead to High SaaS Churn
      2 people · 5 points · first shared 2014 · 1 comments on HN
    6. 6
      Classical Freemium Doesn’t Exist At Scale
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2012 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      SaaS Free Trial: Require a Credit Card to begin?
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      37Signals caught treating pricing page like a marketing page
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2010 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      The 7 Types of Freemium Business Models
      2 people · 2 points · first shared 2012 · 1 comments on HN
    10. 10
      The Great Zendesk Price Debacle of 2010
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2010 · 1 comments on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • tomcamJul 2020

      Viewing this reveals your email and other info. Here's the same list of links.

      Swiped, Best Copywriting Inspiration https://swiped.co/

      Marketing Examples on Copywriting https://marketingexamples.com/copywriting

      Stripe Atlas Guide on Copywriting for Landing Pages https://stripe.com/en-in/atlas/guides/landing-page-copy

      Copywriting For Geeks https://sixteenventures.com/video-interview-copywriting-for-geeks-author-marc-andre-cournoyer

      Nathan Barry Step By Step Landing Page Copywriting https://nathanbarry.com/step-by-step-landing-page-copywriting/

      Joanna Wiebe Old School Copywriting for New School Businesses https://www.slideshare.net/marklittlewood/joanna-wiebe-old-school-copywriting-for-new-school-businesses

      How to be a successful copywriter: from a man who’s written Million Dollar Emails https://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-to-be-a-successful-copywriter/

      Patio11 Tweets on Copywriting https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Apatio11%20copywriting&src=typed_query

      Free Copywriting Course by Kopywriting https://kopywritingkourse.com/free-copywriting-course/

      Twitter Thread by @antdke https://twitter.com/antdke/status/1263130017598406657

    • ASquareJun 2014

      First and foremost you need to familiarize yourself with Dave McClure's Startup metrics: http://500hats.typepad.com/500blogs/2007/09/startup-metrics.html

      If you then look at your analytics, you will then find that you likely have either an Activation problem or a Retention problem or both.
      That then tells you the areas of focus in terms of the problem to correct.

      Also read:
      http://www.socialmediamodels.net/social-media-overview-models-category/the-engagement-pyramid/
      http://www.slideshare.net/startuplessonslearned/eric-ries-engagement-loops-the-levers-and-metrics-of-engagement
      http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2008/12/engagement-loops-beyond-viral.html
      http://andreehuk.com/post/67267407194/gradual-engagement-a-growth-hacking-tool-at-your
      http://sixteenventures.com/saas-customer-success-quick-wins

    • dhSep 2010

      Really the first thing you must decide is that you need to charge as this is the only real way to get validation that what you provide is valuable. Someone needs to give you real dollars for what you do.

      As for the actual price there are a number of ways to attack the problem but the key is the price will change over time as you learn from the marketplace and your customers.

      - Ask your most active and least active users what they would be willing to pay and test them after they respond by asking them to actually pay what they suggest

      - Survey the market and decide if you want to be low cost, high cost, or best value. This will give you a range of where to start

      - Work with a pricing expert like http://sixteenventures.com

    • toumhiOct 2013

      Please don't do that: http://sixteenventures.com/one-dollar-trial

      Basically, if you have many "fake signups":
      1/ you're attracting the wrong crowd. Fix your acquisition.
      2/ these people are not "fake signups" but need more convincing to buy. Fix your onboarding/User Experience.

      If you require a credit card at signup, you're turning away a good part of customers away who, at this point in time, don't know or trust you enough to give you payment details.

    • kowdermeisterMar 2015

      Thanks for the replies. While researching further, this guy suggests to not publish it until the product is in beta or in the very early stages, because we can learn a lot from the users. We are sort of here, although the UI is polished and the flow is tested, but I feel that not posting prices is not a good approach.

      http://sixteenventures.com/beta-testing-pricing

    • ahoyhereMay 2010

      OK, the few posts I've found:

      http://news.buzzgain.com/the-metrics-we-track-and-report-example-for-freemium-products/

      http://sixteenventures.com/blog/the-reality-of-freemium-in-saas.html

      Mite is SaaS, no free accounts at all: http://blog.yo.lk/en/2010/03/08/facts-and-figures-the-first-20-months-of-our-small-saas-start-up-going-for-premium-only-instead-of-freemium

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