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    Publishing 2.0

    publishing2.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2007

    Publishing 2.0 is Scott Karp's blog on online media, covering Google advertising, newspapers' web failures, Facebook and Apple's business moves.

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    What HN says

    HN links it for its history of Google AdWords and its newspaper online-versus-print ad revenue figures.

    Stats for nerds
    20HN people shared it
    43linked in comments
    143story points
    Oct 2014last shared
    2008people per year2014

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      How Apple Will Use The iPhone To Take Over The Wireless Industry (by making the network provider irrelevant)
      1 person · 22 points · first shared 2007 · 11 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Battle Of The Commodity Web Applications: It’s All About People
      1 person · 14 points · first shared 2008 · 6 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Why Isn’t Facebook Making More Money?
      1 person · 10 points · first shared 2008 · 11 comments on HN
    4. 4
      The declining value of redundant news content on the web
      2 people · 9 points · first shared 2008 · 2 comments on HN
    5. 5
      How Google Stole Control Over Content Distribution By Stealing Links
      1 person · 7 points · first shared 2009 · Discussion on HN
    6. 6
      What Newspapers Still Don’t Understand About The Web
      1 person · 6 points · first shared 2008 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      Facebook's Core College Student Users Laugh At Attempts To Use It For Business
      1 person · 6 points · first shared 2007 · 2 comments on HN
    8. 8
      Influentials On The Web Are People With The Power To Link - Publishing 2.0
      1 person · 5 points · first shared 2008 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      Should Newspapers Become Local Blog Networks?
      1 person · 5 points · first shared 2007 · 4 comments on HN
    10. 10
      Business 2.0 vs. Valleywag
      1 person · 4 points · first shared 2007 · 1 comments on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • 7Figures2CommasOct 2014

      A decent short overview of how Google's advertising business evolved can be found at http://publishing2.com/2008/05/27/google-adwords-a-brief-history-of-online-advertising-innovation/. While there were some unexpected twists and turns, the timeline suggests that when this article was written, Google was already thinking about the ways it could adopt an ad model.

      As a side note, I'm not sure if this was posted as an ironic response to the growing bubble talk of the current boom but unlike in the late 90s, the challenge for most startups today is not finding a business model but rather achieving enough scale to apply one of the many proven business models successfully and sustainably.

    • wmfMay 2008

      Most of the articles on mainstream tech news sites like CNet and the Register are already rephrased press releases or summaries of articles written by actual journalists. Why should we expect bloggers to behave any better?

      For example, check out this article that doesn't even bother to hide the fact that it was completely copied from EE Times: http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008/04/28/will-the-feds-stand-in-the-way-of-pa-semi.aspx
      Why not just link to the original? Oh yeah, pageviews.

      cf. http://publishing2.com/2008/05/04/the-declining-value-of-redundant-news-content-on-the-web/

    • mynameishereOct 2009

      That was one painful mixed metaphor.

      ....

      Response to dschobel above. Nytimes stats:

      http://publishing2.com/2007/07/17/newspaper-online-vs-print-ad-revenue-the-10-problem/

      * Online unique users (12 month average): 13,372,000
      * Print circulation – weekday: 1,120,420
      * Print circulation – Sunday: 1,627,062

      * Total advertising revenue: $483,594,000
      * Online advertising revenue: $51,000,000

    • confluenceOct 2012

      Ads were the work of engineers who thought that they'd work better than corporate search that Google first started to monetize. So were Adsense, the ad auction mechanics and the Dutch auction for the IPO.

      http://adwords.blogspot.com.au/2005/08/adwords-history-lesson.html?m=1

      http://publishing2.com/2008/05/27/google-adwords-a-brief-history-of-online-advertising-innovation/

      That's most of the revenue.

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