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    Google Public Policy Blog

    googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com · Company blog · on HN since 2007

    Google's public policy team writes about regulation, net neutrality, copyright, government data requests and privacy issues affecting the company.

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    Privacy & PolicyTech Industry
    What HN says

    HN commenters cite it for Google's transparency report on national security letters and its statements on policy fights like SOPA and patents.

    Stats for nerds
    116HN people shared it
    103linked in comments
    982story points
    May 2016last shared
    2008people per year2016

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      A Step Toward Protecting Fair Use on YouTube
      2 people · 161 points · first shared 2015 · 50 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Google responds: Facts about our network neutrality policy proposal
      2 people · 108 points · first shared 2010 · 124 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Wi-Fi and LTE in Unlicensed Spectrum Bands
      2 people · 107 points · first shared 2015 · 68 comments on HN
    4. 4
      Google Public Policy Blog: A joint policy proposal for an open Internet
      4 people · 101 points · first shared 2010 · 86 comments on HN
    5. 5
      Google: Our stand for digital due process
      1 person · 55 points · first shared 2010 · 4 comments on HN
    6. 6
      Free download: 10 terabytes of patents and trademarks
      1 person · 39 points · first shared 2010 · 5 comments on HN
    7. 7
      Google's response to AT&T
      2 people · 28 points · first shared 2009 · 20 comments on HN
    8. 8
      Plan Your Digital Afterlife with Inactive Account Manager
      6 people · 25 points · first shared 2013 · 2 comments on HN
    9. 9
      Robots for Newspapers
      1 person · 24 points · first shared 2009 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      The MPAA’s Attempt to Revive SOPA Through a State Attorney General
      5 people · 22 points · first shared 2014 · 1 comments on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • kanamekunNov 2013

      According to US law, any online service provider that receives actual knowledge that child porn exists on their services is required by law to report it to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children... or face a fine of $150k for a first offense, or $300k for subsequent offenses:

      http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2258A

      To my knowledge, Google wasn't required to check its hosted files for specific image hashes: "Nothing in this section shall be construed to require an electronic communication service provider or a remote computing service provider to— (1) monitor any user, subscriber, or customer of that provider; (2) monitor the content of any communication of any person described in paragraph (1); or (3) affirmatively seek facts or circumstances described in sections (a) and (b)."

      But once they did, they were required to report the results. Any privacy concerns are waived as an "[exception] for disclosure of communications" as part of 18 USC § 2702: "Voluntary disclosure of customer communications or records".
      http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2702

      It's not surprising that Google is affirmatively scanning its servers for child porn, as they have a long history of providing assistance to NCMEC:

      http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/building-software-tools-to-find-child.html

      http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2012/01/crowdsourcing-to-protect-ncmecs-newly.html

      "$1 Million from Google to Fight Child Sexual Exploitation Received by the…

    • javajoshOct 2013

      What is the nature of the EFF's power? Can they harm Google calling them a hypocrite[1][2] if only via reputation or public shaming? Will programmers on certain forums, for example, be less likely to accept a Google position because of Google's patent policies, especially ones that are highlighted by the EFF?

      Then I think: apart from fearing the mighty EFF's vast and influential power (ha), what other concerns might motivate the patent decision maker at google (whoever that is) to take action in this case? Perhaps they are motivated by the respect of their colleagues. Perhaps they have something I read about in college, called a "conscience", which I was led to believe was a powerful influencer of individual behaviors. Wouldn't that be amazing, if the decision-maker at Google actually told the world that their conscience wouldn't let them take a certain action they believed to be wrong? That would be a massive win, in so many ways, and for so many people.

      And I, for one, might call back that Google recruiter.

      [1] http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2013/02/lets-defend-innovators-against-patent.html

      [2]http://www.geekwire.com/2013/joke-google-seeks-patent-splitting-restaurant-bills/

    • etm117Sep 2010

      True, but hopefully if they are allowing unofficial apps, the official one will be allowed.

      If it is not allowed by Apple again, maybe the "clarification" promise of the new App Store rules will officially tell Google what Apple doesn't like. At that point (i assume) Google will do one of the following:

      1) Make the requested changes and get it approved.

      2) If they don't like the requested changes, they will make a very public post on the Google Public Policy or Voice blog like they did about their complaint to the FCC about the original app rejection (http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2009/09/our-complete-letter-to-fcc-regarding.html)

      Also to note, it is possible that the original Google Voice app submitted last summer would not work with changes Google has made to Voice in the past year. So theoretically now that they know (or found out) that Apple will accept gVoice apps, Google could be working on updates to the app to get it to work before re-submitting it to Apple.

      Either way, I think (hope?) that at some point in the near future the official app will come through.

    • brudgersApr 2011

      Companies Change. Walmart had a Buy American program following the 1990's recession. Google's policies are no more immune to economic incentives.

      Rosenberg's values From The Meaning of Open:

      >Open information means that when we have information about users we use it to provide something that is valuable to them, we are transparent about what information we have about them, and we give them ultimate control over their information. These are the things we should be doing. In many cases we aren't there, but I hope that with this note we can start working to close the gap between reality and aspiration.

      Schmidt's values:

      "The Google policy on a lot of things is to get right up to the creepy line and not cross it."

      [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wal-Mart#Imports_and_globalization]

      [http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2009/12/meaning-of-open.html]

      [http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/122121-schmidt-google-gets-right-up-to-the-creepy-line]

    • dm2Jul 2014

      I can't find anything about Google lobbying against net neutrality, do you have any sources?

      4 years ago Google modified Verizon's proposal after years of stalemate, moving forward was in the best interest of everyone involved, including consumers.

      Would you not agree that it's better that Google be involved in the Verizon (or any telecommunications company) proposal rather than be absent from it? It seems like a reluctant compromise they made, maybe they regret being associated with it, but they were in no way against net-neutrality.

      http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2010/08/joint-policy-proposal-for-open-internet.html

      What's wrong with quotes from their public policy sites? What would be a better source? Here is the EFF's take on the 2010 Google/Verizon situation: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/08/google-verizon-netneutrality

      Also: https://www.eff.org/guide-to-the-fcc-net-neutrality-proposal

    • walterbellNov 2015

      From a comment on the article, http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2015/11/a-step-toward-protecting-fair-use-on.html?showComment=1447952666085&m=1#c8130636333639258122

      "… a far more effective change would be to remove the immediate monetary reward for a false claim. As it stands now, the instant a claim is made, all ad money is diverted to the claimant and is never recoverable by the creator. This is further compounded by the fact appeals go to the claimant, not a 3rd party, for review and along with the conflict of interest can take weeks to a month to be addressed during which time the claimant is still monetizing the creator's work.

      A simple change would be once a claim is made against a video to hold (escrow) all revenue until the dispute is resolved or one party fails to respond in the given time. After there is a resolution, the revenue is released to the correct party."

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