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    Michal Migurski

    mike.teczno.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2008

    Michal Migurski is a mapping and data designer who writes about OpenStreetMap, web performance, and software practice.

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    What HN says

    HN links it for OpenStreetMap topics and page-weight data, including the claim that a single tweet page is 2 MB, and for his map tools.

    Stats for nerds
    29HN people shared it
    29linked in comments
    428story points
    Aug 2016last shared
    2011people per year2016

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      A single tweet page is 2.0 MB
      2 people · 293 points · first shared 2012 · 110 comments on HN
    2. 2
      OpenStreetMap in Postgres
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    3. 3
      Gl-solar – WebGL rendering of OSM data
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    4. 4
      Managers are awesome / managers are cool when they’re part of your team
      1 person · 10 points · first shared 2014 · Discussion on HN
    5. 5
      Serverlessness
      2 people · 5 points · first shared 2017 · Discussion on HN
    6. 6
      Code like you don’t have the time
      2 people · 4 points · first shared 2015 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      Location-Aware chat system?
      1 person · 4 points · first shared 2008 · 5 comments on HN
    8. 8
      Stamen's simple project status visualizing tool ("angry, productive birds")
      1 person · 4 points · first shared 2011 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      Openstreetmap: robots, crisis, and craft mappers
      3 people · 3 points · first shared 2016 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      Processing OSM data with Hadoop
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • andrewljohnsonAug 2016

      This has been heating up. Here's the seminal paper that kicked off the Cambrian Explosion: https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~vmnih/docs/Mnih_Volodymyr_PhD_Thesis.pdf

      And I saw two presentations about this at State of the Map US.

      * Anand Thakker of Development Seed had a cool live demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BftllmqXSpA&list=PLqjPa29lMiE3eR-gK80irr3xdUiRbIMeg&index=2

      * Facebook mapped a bunch of roads in Egypt, and has an ongoing effort. Facebook apparently didn't allow their's to be taped.

      I have a similar project called DeepOSM: https://github.com/trailbehind/deeposm

      There is starting to be a conversation in the OSM community about allowing robot edits into the map, I'm definitely pro robot. Google has been doing it for years. Mike Migurski touched off debate on the OSM Slack and blog comments with his post: http://mike.teczno.com/notes/openstreetmap-at-a-crossroads.html (added this link after maxerickson's comment reminded me what touched of the debate).

      http://terrapattern.com is also a related project from some CMU people.

    • maxericksonAug 2016

      This space is heating up a bit.

      Facebook (!) has developed a system for mapping roads and is working towards using it to add data to OpenStreetMap:

      http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=55220

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12150862 (no comments)

      There's several other people/groups working on similar projects, like DeepOSM:

      http://www.deeposm.org/

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11808639 (some discussion)

      And no shortage of feels about how all the parts need to work together:

      http://mike.teczno.com/notes/openstreetmap-at-a-crossroads.html

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12187782 (no comments)

      http://tomlee.wtf/2016/07/31/introductory-openstreetmap-politics/

      http://www.maproomblog.com/2016/08/openstreetmap-at-the-crossroads/

      There have been earlier efforts to do automated feature extraction, but it seems that improvements in AI and better, more liberally licensed imagery are moving things towards some sort of tipping point.

    • ZeroGravitasMar 2012

      There are already tiles like this, including the ones at this link. It seems like Imhof was part of the inspiration for creating them:

      http://mike.teczno.com/notes/osm-us-terrain-layer.html

      http://mike.teczno.com/notes/osm-us-terrain-layer/foreground.html

      Though those are US only, similar tech is available for worldwide maps.

      Compare:

      http://www.library.ethz.ch/exhibit/imhof/images/d1.1.jpg

      http://hikebikemap.de/?zoom=9&lat=46.58402&lon=7.94684&layers=00B00TFFFF

      http://hikebikemap.de/?zoom=9&lat=46.58402&lon=7.94684&layers=B0000TFFFF

      The primary differences are choice of colorscheme and the fact that the OSM examples are targetted at screen DPI and the paper map was probably intended to be wall mounted.

      That's not a limitation of OSM, you can target different resolutions and print to large paper too, it's just not as common. Here's an example:

      http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:3274048625_815c60625e.jpg

    • riordanAug 2013

      OSM's been pretty hardcore about their no import policy because of accuracy issues in validation. They want to map these places themselves and don't want to trust others for accuracy, let alone the legal issues that come with importing data (ugh).

      We, however are far more lenient (mostly because we can't afford to build a time machine to map the past ourselves).

      On the other hand, Mike Migurski's Green Means Go [1] project is fantastic for figuring out where batch imports into OSM will be greeted with confetti and parades for filling out parts of the US without enough coverage to warrant anti-import protectionism.

      [1]: http://mike.teczno.com/notes/green-means-go.html

    • freyfogleDec 2011

      Agree, Google does very well with their UI. But so do others. Check out Leaflet for example http://leaflet.cloudmade.com/

      More importantly, with OSM you can do whatever YOU want with the actual underlying data. A great example are these beautiful maps: http://mike.teczno.com/notes/osm-us-terrain-layer/foreground.html

    • richardwFeb 2013

      "A single tweet page is 2MB. This is one of the big challenges for Single Page Apps."

      https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z123j3wxwrm5jb0tv23ajl0pnvnlx3kgx04

      Source: Comparison of various pages:
      http://mike.teczno.com/notes/bandwidth.html

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