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    Loud Thinking

    loudthinking.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2007

    David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), creator of Ruby on Rails and 37signals partner, writes about Rails, PHP, and software work.

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    What HN says

    HN commenters link it for Rails scaling debates and the Rails crash myth post, and note DHH draws harsh personal criticism.

    Stats for nerds
    34HN people shared it
    29linked in comments
    434story points
    Mar 2011last shared
    2007people per year2011

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      DHH addresses Dreamhost's criticism of Rails
      1 person · 39 points · first shared 2008 · 28 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Git's avalanche
      1 person · 39 points · first shared 2008 · 7 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Alpha male programmers aren't keeping women out
      2 people · 38 points · first shared 2009 · 85 comments on HN
    4. 4
      DHH on the pluses of PHP
      2 people · 37 points · first shared 2008 · 18 comments on HN
    5. 5
      DHH: Think of emails as views delivered through SMTP
      1 person · 36 points · first shared 2009 · 7 comments on HN
    6. 6
      The Rails Myths
      1 person · 34 points · first shared 2008 · 9 comments on HN
    7. 7
      We need both engineers and artists in programming
      1 person · 33 points · first shared 2009 · 30 comments on HN
    8. 8
      DHH: The silent majority
      1 person · 27 points · first shared 2008 · 1 comments on HN
    9. 9
      DHH: Sun surprises at RailsConf Europe 2007
      1 person · 20 points · first shared 2007 · 5 comments on HN
    10. 10
      Work on what you use and share the rest
      2 people · 15 points · first shared 2008 · 1 comments on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • darushimoJun 2010

      i think a lot of the advice the 37signals guys give would be good to hear. their basecamp wasn't the first or "best" of its kinda but the founding team makes great arguments as to why it was the best that could be offered. check out http://37signals.com/ and the samples from their book REWORK or maybe check out DHH's site http://www.loudthinking.com/. while i wouldn't agree with all of his thoughts (at all), he does speak to/about the importance of persistence and various manifestations of ingenuity that are possible to make a product/business succeed.

      at the same time, let's be realistic here--if you think that they will be able to offer a better product across the board or that the product that you're developing is quite niche and that they will own the products community, you might even now start thinking of ways that the work you've put into this tool can be redirected without being significantly diluted/compromised.

      just a couple thoughts. good luck.

    • davidwAug 2007

      They've done a lot of cool things, and are very talented. However, I think that they "jumped the shark" when they charged $20... twenty dollars... for a PDF version of their book (that isn't really a book... no ISBN), and had the gall to tell Tim O'Reilly that in addition to everything else, they were going to reinvent publishing:

      http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/2006_04.html

      His links are all broken, though... and I can't find the back and forth with O'Reilly, but basically he come across as very presumptuous - something I'd be willing to accept because he's right about certain fields (web programming, for instance), but something I'd look at with a more critical eye when he's talking about something he really doesn't know 100%.

    • swombatApr 2009

      For some context, Mike Gunderloy (author of this article) is an extremely prolific rails activist and community member. This is not some random unknown making a fuss, it's a very well respected, very active, very productive member of the rails community making a pretty pointed statement and putting his money where his mouth is.

      Some further background:

      http://dyepot-teapot.com/2009/04/25/dear-fellow-rubyists/

      http://www.loudthinking.com/posts/39-im-an-r-rated-individual

      http://www.loudthinking.com/posts/40-alpha-male-programmers-arent-keeping-women-out

      And, the slides themslves (NSFW): http://www.slideshare.net/mattetti/couchdb-perform-like-a-pr0n-star?type=presentation

    • listicNov 2010

      They actually can. E.g. to start a WordPress site, one can do with a shared hosting with an ftp access. With FireFTP for Firefox, you don't have to leave the browser. You can install WordPress by just copying it over, as well all the plugins and themes you need.

      This level of simplicity of deployment is a good thing to have for any project. Even David Heinemeier Hansson have commented positively on the immediacy of PHP: http://www.loudthinking.com/posts/23-the-immediacy-of-php I see that Arc is a research project that may have other priority at the time, but this landmark of usability is a good thing to keep in mind.

    • comatose_kidApr 2007

      Disagree. It seems more like they've optimized one part of their infrastructure, so now a new bottleneck has popped up. Par for the course when you're optimizing anything...

      Oh, and this interview was discussed by DHH on his blog:

      http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000608.html

      The comments were interesting, especially one from Alex Payne (the Twitter dev himself). Here is an excerpt. Visit the link above to read the full comment (which is kind of long to post fully inline here).

      "...We'd be running into scaling issues on Django or any other platform. We're happiest scaling on Rails."

    • jhancockDec 2008

      again, I wasn't trying to bash DHH. Just adding some humor to my search for the very hard to find quote I'm still looking for.

      But if you wonder why DHH seems to attract character assassins, look no further than how he signed off from his Christmas Eve post http://www.loudthinking.com/posts/36-work-on-what-you-use-and-share-the-rest

      "So kumbaja motherfuckers and merry christmas!"

      That's a great way to tick off a billion or so people.

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