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    Tidelift Blog

    blog.tidelift.com · Company blog · on HN since 2018

    Tidelift, a company that pays open source maintainers, writes about licensing, maintainer compensation, and the economics of open source.

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    What HN says

    HN commenters bring it up in discussions of Redis and SSPL licensing and maintainer burnout, and its list of packages with claimable maintainer income.

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    33HN people shared it
    34linked in comments
    572story points
    Dec 2024last shared
    2019people per year2024

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    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • risApr 2022

      There is so much going on in the world of SBOM that seems so wrong-headed to me, and this is a good example. So much of the effort seems to be going into processes and systems that do little more than build a chain of trust back to someone or something that says "yeah just trust me". Here, from what I can tell (and I may have got this wrong), the "guarantee" of an un-tamperable build seems to come from some behaviour that some product (GitHub Actions) happens to exhibit. Today. That feature subtly changes tomorrow or someone finds a(nother) hole in GitHub Actions security model, it means nothing.

      I've generally come to believe that supply chain security comes from reproducible builds - though, more importantly, the build transparency that enables those builds to be performed reproducibly. If I can get two disparate, differently-hosted build machines to generate an identical artifact for me, that gives me far more confidence than relying on any behaviours that GitHub Actions is supposed to have. If I can then decide to ignore the pre-built package and choose to very easily perform the full scratch-build on my own systems and inspect every part of that process, that's even more convincing.

      A lot of the efforts around SBOM give me the impression that they're trying to solve the problem using lightly-digitized bureaucracy (which, as pointed out by Luis Villa in https://blog.tidelift.com/pay-to-play-dont-expect-maintainers-to-solve-your-supply-chain-issues-for-free is a game…

    • benatkinDec 2024

      Redis from Redis Labs, available under a choice of its own license or the SSPL, is pretty close to truly open-source, IMO closer to it than the BUSL, which is another source-available license. It is pretty similar to the AGPLv3, and they even credibly applied to get it OSI-approved.

      https://blog.tidelift.com/what-i-learned-from-the-server-side-public-license https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/11291/how-to-interpret-the-sspl-terms-on-licensing-the-service-under-sspl

      What it isn't close to is the original license, which is a permissive open source license.

      The license switch-up is why a fork was needed. Matrix did a similar thing with the AGPL which alas, doesn't have a major fork. https://element.io/blog/element-to-adopt-agplv3/ Although it's technically still open source, they didn't do right by the contributors to it.

    • hpMay 2019

      Just wanted to add here for those interested in this kind of thing, that we have over 4000 packages with income maintainers can claim today on Tidelift.

      If you're a maintainer, ctrl-f through this list and see if you're in there: https://blog.tidelift.com/is-your-package-eligible-for-income-on-tidelift-heres-the-complete-list-may-2019

      Tidelift is also supported via the new GitHub Sponsors feature:
      https://tidelift.com/subscription/how-to-connect-tidelift-with-github

      If you aren't in the 4000+ packages we have income for now, you can still sign up (which helps us get to subscribers who are specifically using your stuff, meaning income in the future).

    • afeiszliAug 2023

      SSPL is a bit more restrictive, but politics also have a lot to do with it. "Open Source" is just a term, technically anyone could call their license open source, but most people only consider a license open source if the OSI (a foundation) specifically approves it. Mongo tried and failed to get SSPL approved by OSI: https://blog.tidelift.com/what-i-learned-from-the-server-side-public-license

    • orliesaurusApr 2024

      I maintain an OSS that is 10x smaller than the author of the post and I have experienced the same absurd community behavior.

      I feel bad for the state of open source [0] - even when Microsoft literally a couple of weeks ago pulled the "FIX THIS NOW" card on ffmpeg https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/10341#comment:4

      [0] https://blog.tidelift.com/maintainer-burnout-is-real

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