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    Ben Goldacre

    bengoldacre.posterous.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2010

    Ben Goldacre's secondary blog of short links and asides, kept apart from his Bad Science writing on medicine and statistics.

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    What HN says

    HN commenters note it holds items too long for Twitter, and link his post criticizing the BBC for not linking journal articles in science stories.

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    Mar 2011last shared
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    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • v21Aug 2010

      Even the BBC, usually so good, is terrible about this. And it's not like people haven't told them, they're just terribly intransigent about it.

      http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/trying-to-get-the-bbc-to-link-to-journal-arti is Ben Goldacre writing in to the Beeb.

      He later had a response ( http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/no-movement-on-the-bbcs-bizarre-links-policy ):

      "Many thanks for your message, and interest in the site.
      The issue of linking to specific research papers, rather than the journals in which they appear is something with which we have long wrestled.

      Linking to the journal gives the reader the chance to look at the source of the story, understand something of the wider context and get an idea of whether the research is peer reviewed. It also gives a chance to read associated information in editorials, etc, which often may be of interest. It is also a way for us to credit the journal.

      We accept that linking to the specific research paper itself is often a desirable thing to do, and it is certainly something we will try to do more of in future. However, we don't believe that it is something we can do on every occasion - for instance many papers are available on the web via subscription only, while others give only an Abstract summary. In these instances, the vast majority of our readers would not be able to read the full papers, without paying for access, even if we provided the relevant link.

      In addition, we do have finite resources, and our view is that…

    • tokenadultMar 2011

      Our journalists routinely interview primary sources

      That would be good journalistic practice, but that is not what Ben Goldacre is talking about in the blog post submitted here on HN. He is talking about news stories that purport to report on the result of a research study and what he is looking for is a citation (or a link, as appropriate to the journalistic medium) to the published research study. Not doing that doesn't pass the smell test for Goldacre.

      http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/if-you-dont-link-to-primary-sources-you-are-d

      Of course, even if the published study is cited, it still has to be examined carefully,

      http://norvig.com/experiment-design.html

      but there is no reason to hide the published study from the consumer of the journalistic report. You are referring to persons as "sources," the same way I did when I was a journalist, while Goldacre is referring to publications as sources.

    • shrikantMar 2011

      He also has a secondary blog where he posts "things that are too long to post on twitter and not clever enough to post on his main blog": http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/

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