Bes D. Marx
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51:19 · 141K views · Feb 18, 2024
A long-form video essay on the history of labor or 'left-wing' Zionism, drawing on historians of Palestine and Zionism to argue it played a role in dispossessing Palestinians.
Cited as a source in Israel-Palestine threads for the claim that labor Zionist groups drove the Nakba.
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When he writes "In the Palestine Mandate, Jews and Palestinians got along just fine" he clearly means that the centuries of peaceful co-existence before the arrival of Zionists are evidence that Zionism was and still is the root cause of hostilities and violence. That event which you referenced didn't happen in a vacuum since at that point Zionist colonization[1] was already in full force for decades and was systematically discriminating against the native Palestinians and trying to dispossess them deploying various strategies outlined in Jabotinsky's writings. "The Irgun has been viewed as a terrorist organization or organization which carried out terrorist acts. The Irgun policy was based on what was then called Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky.[6] Two of the operations for which the Irgun is best known are the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre that killed at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children, carried out together with Lehi on 9 April 1948. The organization committed acts of terrorism against Palestinian Arabs, as well as against the British authorities, who were regarded as illegal occupiers.[7] In particular the Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by the United Nations, British, and United States governments; in media such as The New York Times newspaper;[8][9] as well as by the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry,[10][11] the 1946 Zionist Congress[12] and t
The expected Zionist modus operandi, whitewash Zionist crimes, then blame the victim for responding. Your "socialist" argument is a weak attempt to hide behind a political label. It doesn't matter what they called themselves. The "socialist"[1] Haganah and Palmach were the main engines of the Nakba. The distinction between them and the Irgun was a public relations strategy, a "good cop, bad cop" routine for the same unified colonial project of dispossessing Palestinians. The Altalena was a colonizing force consolidating its monopoly on violence to better oppress and dispossess the Palestinians. You cannot compare that to a occupied population struggling under a foreign military boot. Palestinian "leadership problems" and disunity are a direct result of decades of Israeli assassinations, imprisonment, and engineered fragmentation.[2] [1] 'The Dark History of "Left-Wing" Zionism' this video [2] [LINK]
You can disagree all you want, some people even disagree on if the holocaust happened but no one takes them seriously. The history of Zionism and its goal to colonize Palestine (long before the holocaust even happened) and their ruthless methods of colonization are thoroughly documented[0][1]. [0] [LINK] [1] The History of "Socialist" Zionism | Leftist Zionists did the Nakba & founded Israel this video