Berkeley Institute for Data Science (BIDS)
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56:27 · 18K views · Dec 11, 2015
Chris Granger, creator of Light Table and the Eve language, gives a Berkeley data science lecture on what computation and programming might look like in ten years. He covers the path that led to Eve and ends with demos.
HN keeps pointing to it as a thoughtful vision of programming for non-programmers and as background on Eve's motivations.
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I absolutely loved the semantic wiki stuff that was shown towards the end of the "In search of tomorrow" video. This seems fairly different to that system. Is there a write up/talk about why you changed? Is there anything like that semantic wiki thing available for me to use? this video
Seeing Eve's development out in the open is inspiring. Many of the commenters are coming from positions of extreme skepticism towards new approaches to programming, probably justified by the history of the field, but I'd recommend to spend some more time looking into the research idbknox and his team have been conducting (see this video , for instance) and how much they have iterated based on user experimentation. A few questions come to mind now: 1 - This new demo, with the messaging app sample, and references to "my pm wants this or that" seems to point a change in positioning, from targeting non-programmers to professional programmers. Is this accurate? 2 - Is there a plan to integrate the grid-style or the adlibs style UI into this new iteration? 3 - If non-programmers are still a target, it seems to me that the ease of importing data from external sources would important to reach broad usage. Any research here? 4 - Html and css might be a hurdles for new users, any way Eve will help on this front? (edited for formatting)
#Softwarish - I'm biased a bit more towards interface development: greg wilson - What We Actually Know About Software Development, and Why We Believe It’s True - [LINK] steve wittens - making webgl dance - the title is deceptive, it's in some ways a visual crash course in linear algebra - [LINK] glenn vanderburg - software engineering doesn't work - [LINK] chris granger - in search of tomorrow - this video alan kay - tribute to ted nelson at intertwingled fest - [LINK] bret victor - this is already mentioned but if I had to pick one it'd be 'the humane representation of thought' - [LINK] #Hardwarish: saul griffith - soft, not solid: beyond traditional hardware engineering - [LINK] deb chachra - Architectural Biology and Biological Architectures - [LINK] #Getting more meta in technology and history: James Burke - Connections
There are a lot of professional developers who are blind. They use accessible IDEs paired with a Screen reader. Here is a good description: [LINK] In the future, I think there is a lot of potential for pairing a Conversational UI and a natural language programming...language. Eve looks really promising, and could change the way that everyone writes software, and not just the blind: [LINK] Here is a demo: this video
Eve [1] is one project I know of that has been trying to tackle this very difficult problem. The project is led by Chris Granger, whom you might know from his work on the Light Table IDE [2]. They released a video last year that showcased some iterations of their prototypes and I found them to be very innovative and promising: this video [1] [LINK] [2] [LINK]