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    Abolish Copyrights and Patents? A Soho Forum Debate

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    3 HN recommenders · recommended in 3 months, 2022–2023

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    1:29:58 · 93K views · Nov 24, 2021

    A Soho Forum debate in which patent lawyer Stephan Kinsella argues for abolishing copyright and patents against law professor Richard Epstein. Both come from libertarian perspectives.

    HN points to it as a substantive debate on intellectual property from two libertarian angles, with Kinsella as the abolitionist voice.

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    3 comments from Hacker News

    1. @breckApr 2023· in “'Delete Act' seeks to give Californians more power to block data tracking”

      Anything by Stephan Kinsella is worth watching: this video > ignore the current economic system and wellbeing of the authors and artists who produce work. I'm not ignoring it, I will freely admit that I do not care about preserving the wealth of Atherton and Beverly Hills at the expense of poor children having second rate information. If they can figure out a way to make money in a world with actual property rights, great for them. I also don't think Oxcontin or mRNA vaccines or Fox News or CNN, etc, make a good case for having patents and copyrights.

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    2. @interroboinkMay 2023· in “Supreme Court Rules Andy Warhol’s Prince Art Is Copyright Infringement”

      I thought this was a decent debate on the subject: "Abolish Copyrights and Patents? A Soho Forum Debate" ( this video ) One thing that struck me was that both sides in that debate agreed that the current copyright/patent system was not in very good shape. That's one nuance that I think can get lost in these discussions — somebody says "copyright can be good" and is met with the retort "look at how bad our system is right now" without allowing for the possibility that we could have a better system, rather than outright abolishing it. Anyway, I think there are good points on both sides; you seem to be more on the absolutist side (fair enough), but you might enjoy watching it.

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    3. @aaa_aaaOct 2022· in “Vectis IP Announces Call for Patents Essential to the Opus codec”

      Here is a debate on IP with two different libertarian perspective: this video `Abolish the IP laws` side provides some pointers to related research and empirical evidence against IP.

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