PowerfulJRE
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2:44:56 · 22M views · Sep 1, 2017
A long Joe Rogan Experience podcast episode with psychologist Jordan Peterson and biologist Bret Weinstein, recorded during the controversy at Evergreen State College. They discuss campus politics, polarization, ideology and related social topics.
HN commenters cite it as a wide-ranging conversation on political polarization and free discussion, and one commenter points to a segment on wealth distribution following a square-root law.
4 comments from Hacker News
Start here at 1:30:30 this video and see all of nature follows a law of square roots. If you have 10,000 people, 100 will have all the money. If you have 10,000 music artist, only 100 will be getting their songs heard. This is a law of nature. Stop fighting against it and spend some time understanding it.
A recent Joe Rogan Podcast had a really interesting discussion about this [1]. Basically one of the key points, especially in light of people being called Nazis (accurately or spuriously), is that one of the major social aspects of pre-war Germany was that there was radical polarization between fascist and anti-fascist groups similar to what we see now. However because the psychological makeup of someone who would support fascism is more drawn toward structuralism, law and order etc... they are much more organized and lethal as a group. You see echoes here with the Alt-Right and Antifa. Alt-Right is structured, highly armed, biologically motivated (aka racist) and generally support law enforcement. Antifa is a loose consolidation of many groups (LGBT, Socialists, Radfem etc...) that is under armed and would likely not be as cohesive in the long run. So by banning these hate groups from being searchable and driving them away, it just makes both sides echo each other more and gives strength to each extreme of the movements. Even worse, it gives people like the ones in this article no real option to be moderate - they basically feel like they need to join a radical ideology because they feel the only alternative is anathema. This is by the way what happens all over the world with terrorist recruiting etc... so the pattern is pretty well understood. If you create extremes, organizations will form around them and then the majority of people get drug along for the ride and do moral
This episode of the Joe Rogan podcast w/ Jordan Peterson and Bret Weinstein touches on similar issues (among other things) and discusses why it's still important to have discussions like these: this video
Found this interesting after recently listening to a lot of Jordan Peterson talks - especially the latest Joe Rogan Experience episode #1006 this video