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    Building Voice AI Agents That Don’t Suck with Kwindla Kramer - #739

    The TWIML AI Podcast (formerly This Week in Machine Learning & Artificial Intelligence) · Jul 15, 2025 · 1 h 13 min
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    In this episode, Kwindla Kramer, co-founder and CEO of Daily and creator of the open source Pipecat framework, joins us to discuss the architecture and challenges of building real-time, production-ready conversational voice AI. Kwin breaks down the full stack for voice agents—from the models and APIs to the critical orchestration layer that manages the complexities of multi-turn conversations.…

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