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    Rethinking Pre-Training for Agentic AI with Aakanksha Chowdhery - #759

    The TWIML AI Podcast (formerly This Week in Machine Learning & Artificial Intelligence) · Dec 17, 2025 · 53 min
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    Today, we're joined by Aakanksha Chowdhery, member of technical staff at Reflection, to explore the fundamental shifts required to build true agentic AI. While the industry has largely focused on post-training techniques to improve reasoning, Aakanksha draws on her experience leading pre-training efforts for Google’s PaLM and early Gemini models to argue that pre-training itself must be…

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