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    532. A Dialogue So Dangerous, It Just Might Bring You Wisdom | John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall

    The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast · Mar 24, 2025 · 1 h 52 min
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    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall. They discuss the vertical dimension, proper orientation within the hierarchy of values, the normative versus the ethical, and what makes something more “real” in a pragmatic and philosophical sense. John Vervaeke is an associate professor of psychology & cognitive science at the University of Toronto. John publishes and…

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