Episode
AGI is still 30 years away — Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu
Dwarkesh Podcast · Apr 17, 2025 · 3 h 08 min
Ege Erdil and Tamay Besiroglu have 2045+ timelines, think the whole "alignment" framing is wrong, don't think an intelligence explosion is plausible, but are convinced we'll see explosive economic growth (economy literally doubling every year or two). This discussion offers a totally different scenario than my recent interview with Scott and Daniel . Ege and Tamay are the co-founders of…