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    Leopold Aschenbrenner — 2027 AGI, China/US super-intelligence race, & the return of history

    Dwarkesh Podcast · Jun 4, 2024 · 4 h 31 min
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    Chatted with my friend Leopold Aschenbrenner on the trillion dollar nationalized cluster, CCP espionage at AI labs, how unhobblings and scaling can lead to 2027 AGI, dangers of outsourcing clusters to Middle East, leaving OpenAI, and situational awareness. Watch on YouTube . Listen on Apple Podcasts , Spotify , or any other podcast platform. Read the full transcript here . Follow me on Twitter…

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