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    That UL safety logo is a lot more complicated than it looks

    Decoder with Nilay Patel · Apr 27, 2026 · 1 h 03 min

    Jennifer Scanlon is CEO of UL Solutions, one of those hidden-in-plain-sight companies we like to poke at here on Decoder. UL's been around for more than 100 years; it started as a way for insurance companies to standardize fire and safety testing as electricity was the new technology spreading into homes. But now it's everywhere, and "safety" in tech doesn't just mean the hardware. UL is…

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