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    Who decides when AI is too dangerous?

    Decoder with Nilay Patel · Jun 18, 2026 · 41 min

    My guest today is Hayden Field, senior AI reporter for The Verge. Often when Hayden comes on the show, it’s because something has gone wrong in the world of AI. Last weekend, that something was a pretty intense mix of Anthropic, the Trump administration, and Anthropic’s new AI model, Fable 5. Hayden actually just published a fantastic play-by-play on The Verge about how the Fable ban went down…

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