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    Proton’s CTO: No company is going to jail for you

    Decoder with Nilay Patel · Jul 16, 2026 · 1 h 24 min

    We’ve got the first of a two-part series on the systems that run the world: I’m talking today with Bart Butler, the CTO of Proton, the company that makes private and secure productivity software. There’s a lot of big Decoder themes in this one. That includes how Proton has structured its ownership and architected its products to align its incentives with protecting users. At the same time…

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