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Naveen Rao: 4D Computing, AI's Energy Wall & Beating Biology
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · Sep 21, 2026 · 23 min
(0:00) Welcome Naveen Rao (4:45) Is energy really the problem? The cost of a token, power contracts & the gap to close (10:24) Cutting out the middleman: abstractions, dynamical systems & a new kind of machine (19:46) Chamath joins: the path to product, porting existing models & building the team Thanks to our partners for making this possible! IREN is a vertically integrated AI Cloud platform…