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    Daniel Ek: Life After Spotify, Broken Healthcare Incentives, Catching Disease Early & AI's Potential

    All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · Sep 28, 2026 · 51 min
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    (0:00) Daniel Ek joins the Besties! (1:14) Starting Spotify: Beating piracy and betting his own money on the record labels (6:10) Neko Health: The Spotify playbook for healthcare, the $499 body scan, and why US healthcare waits until you're sick (36:04) AI: Tech's failure to sell the upside, open vs. closed models, and regulating compute (44:24) Back to Spotify: Podcasting's open standards and…

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