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    Elon Musk & Gwynne Shotwell on AI Risks and Peer Review, Starship, Terafab, SpaceX/Tesla Merger

    All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · Sep 15, 2026 · 1 h 04 min
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    (0:00) SpaceX's Gwynne Shotwell joins The Besties! (1:45) Gwynne's SpaceX story, selling rockets, and working for Elon (6:45) Running modern day SpaceX: AI, Starlink, Rockets, and X (13:43) Direct to cell with Starlink, retiring rockets, competition (18:34) Data centers in space (22:00) Management at SpaceX (27:37) Elon Musk joins: AI's real risk, model peer review, what he meant by "Dario is…

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