Skip to content
HomeVideosBooks
AllTopicsTrends
BlogsPodcasts
HistoryListsWatch laterLiked videosFollowing

The videos, books, blogs and podcasts Hacker News keeps recommending, all in one place.

VideosBooksBlogsPodcastsAboutPrivacySettings

Data from Hacker News, HackerTube, HackerBooks, HackerBlogs and Open Library. Credits · Not affiliated with Y Combinator.

HomeVideosBooksBlogsPodcasts
Ctrl K
    Cover of Beyond the Hoax

    Beyond the Hoax

    Alan D. Sokal · 2008

    PhilosophyPopular Science
    Open LibraryAmazon
    Stats for nerds
    1recommend
    3mentions
    3people
    2016–2018years
    33% recommend67% neutral

    Mentions per year

    201620172018

    What Hacker News says

    1. a77jk153Feb 2016
      Alan Sokal's 'Beyond The Hoax' and 'Intellectual Impostures' are good reads about the subject.
      thread
    2. tom_hackMar 2018
      In the book 'Beyond the Hoax: Science, Philosophy and Culture', author Alan Sokal, Math Professor at University College London, writes under the heading 'Hindu nationalism and Vedic-Science' in 'Pseudoscience and Postmodernism' chapter:

      On February 23, 2001, the University Grants Commission (UGC) — the central government body overseeing the funding of higher education in India — announced that

      "there is an urgent need to rejuvenate the science of Vedic Astrology in India, to allow this scientific knowledge to reach to the society at large and to provide opportunities to get this important science even exported to the world ... [Accordingly,] the Commission decided to approve in principle [the] setting up of a few departments of Vedic Astrology in Indian universities ... leading to certificate diploma, under-graduate, post-graduate and Ph.D. degrees."

      The plan provoked a storm of protest from Indian scientists and rationalist intellectuals. But what on earth prompted such a bizarre decision in the first place? The answer, not surprisingly, is politics: more precisely, the Hindu nationalist politics of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), which governed India between March 1998 and May 2004. The BJP is the political expression of a multifaceted mass movement for Hindutva, or “Hindu-ness”, “an ultranationalist and chauvinistic movement that seeks to modernize India by recovering the supposedly pristine Vedic-Hindu roots of Indian culture”.As part of its program for the Hinduization of Indian education, the BJP rewrote school history textbooks to excise the contributions of Muslims and other non-Hindus, and promoted university-level courses not only in Vedic Astrology (Jyotir Vigyari) but also in karmakanda (Hindu priestly rituals), vastu shastra (sacred architectural rules), “human consciousness and Yogic science”, and “Vedic mathematics”

      ... Contemporary Hindu-nationalist intellectuals, many of whom are trained scientists and engineers, have brought this art to an even higher level of refinement. For instance, Subhash Kak, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at Louisiana State University and one of the leading intellectual luminaries of the Hindu-nationalist diaspora, claims to find “astronomical codes” in the Rig Veda's descriptions of ritual fire altars, using a method that, as Nanda wryly observes, “is breathtakingly ad hoc and reads like numerology 101”.Even more ludicrously, #Raja Ram Mohan Roy asserts that “the Vedas are a coded book ... of particle physics and cosmology”: thus, verses referring to wild and domestic animals are really alluding to fermions and bosons, respectively; passages recounting the destruction of black-skinned people are in fact “about annihilation of anti-matter”; and the phrase “ten-finger form” in the Purusa hymn gives us “compelling evidence of [the] universe being considered ten-dimensional in Vedic cosmology”, just as in modem superstring theory.

      #A contemporary author, not to be confused with the early-nineteenth-century Indian reformer of the same name.

      https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2036727.Beyond_the_Hoax

      thread
    3. 551199Nov 2016
      Sure but what if it was never a fact. 'Fat makes you fat' or similar falsification that have real impact to society[0]

      We shouldn't attribute everything to malice, but there are clear issues in science:

      'Too many of the findings that fill the academic either are the result of shoddy experiments or poor analysis

      Last year researchers at one biotech firm, Amgen, found they could reproduce just six of 53 “landmark” studies in cancer research. Earlier, a group at Bayer, a drug company, managed to repeat just a quarter of 67 similarly important papers. A leading computer scientist frets that three-quarters of papers in his subfield are bunk. In 2000-10 roughly 80,000 patients took part in clinical trials based on research that was later retracted because of mistakes or improprieties.

      Careerism also encourages exaggeration and the cherry-picking of results. In order to safeguard their exclusivity, the leading journals impose high rejection rates: in excess of 90% of submitted manuscripts. The most striking findings have the greatest chance of making it onto the page.

      Conversely, failures to prove a hypothesis are rarely even offered for publication, let alone accepted. “Negative results” now account for only 14% of published papers, down from 30% in 1990. Yet knowing what is false is as important to science as knowing what is true. The failure to report failures means that researchers waste money and effort exploring blind alleys already investigated by other scientists.'[1]

      [0] https://www.amazon.com/Salt-Sugar-Fat-Giants-Hooked/dp/08129... [1] http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21588069-scientific-re...

      [2] Alan Sokal - Beyond the Hoax: Science, Philosophy and Culture https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Hoax-Science-Philosophy-Cultur... [3] How to Lie with Statistics - https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/03... [4] Nassim Taleb 'Incerto', twitter.com/nntaleb

      thread

    Related

    Cover of Intellectual impostures
    2011–2025

    Intellectual impostures

    Alan D. Sokal
    8 recommend · 17
    Cover of The authenticity hoax
    2010

    The authenticity hoax

    Andrew Potter
    1 recommend · 2
    Cover of The Greatest Hoax
    2015–2026

    The Greatest Hoax

    James M. Inhofe
    2 recommend · 6
    Cover of Liars and outliers
    2012–2026

    Liars and outliers

    Bruce Schneier
    18 recommend · 36
    Cover of The Beginning of Infinity
    2009–2026

    The Beginning of Infinity

    David Deutsch
    77 recommend · 145
    Cover of The Art of Deception
    2007–2026

    The Art of Deception

    Kevin D. Mitnick
    34 recommend · 68
    Cover of On Bullshit
    2010–2026

    On Bullshit

    Harry G. Frankfurt
    42 recommend · 143
    Cover of The Case Against Reality
    2019–2026

    The Case Against Reality

    Donald Hoffman
    5 recommend · 17