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    Cover of Omnilingual

    Omnilingual

    H. Beam Piper · 2007

    Science FictionFiction & Literature
    Open LibraryAmazon
    Stats for nerds
    3recommend
    7mentions
    4people
    2013–2025years
    86% recommend14% neutral

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    What Hacker News says

    1. WillAdamsDec 2025
      Books which I have read and would recommend include:

      - _Ashley's Book of Knots_ --- everyone should be aware of knots and now at least the basics interesting, _The Klutz Book of Knots_ was also mentioned once

      - James Clavell _Noble House_ --- part of his "Asian Saga", not sure if it has aged well --- if a person could read only one of these, I'd recommend _King Rat_, based on his experience in a Japanese prison camp in WWII.

      - Hesse _Steppenwolf_ --- that Hesse is no longer read saddens me deeply, and not just because this makes _The Glass Bead Game_ less likely --- his thoughts on the difficulties of interpersonal relationships resonate even now

      - Knuth _Literate Programming_ --- I _really_ wish this style f programming would gain traction and that there would be more instances of taking famous programs and re-writing as a Literate Program, e.g., http://literateprogramming.com/adventure.pdf

      - Knuth _Digital Typography_ (and not just because I have a reward check)

      - Knuth _Mathematical Writing_ --- if you do any work in math, you probably already have a copy --- if you don't, you probably need one

      - Dewdney _The Planiverse_ --- response to the classic _Flatland_, this has a real charm and despite the dated computer technology, has held up well

      - Walter jon Williams _Hardwired_ --- an amazing cyberpunk novel, part of which was published in _Omni_

      - Steven Brust's _Jhereg_ --- one of my favourite fantasy novels, which I've been reading since picking it up in a Waldenbooks when I was in high school, waiting for the last two books, and esp. glad of these since they made the "Paarfi Romances" exist --- anyone who enjoys Alexandre Dumas and fantasy should read _The Phoenix Guards_

      - C.J. Cherryh's _Regenesis_ --- her entire Alliance--Union series is amazing and books are so varied pretty much everyone will find something which appeals

      - Trevanian _The Eiger Sanction_ and _Shibumi_ --- not sure if this and _Shibumi_ have aged well or no, but the latter was a big part of my childhood

      - Ben Franklin's Autobiography --- read presidential biographies to my kind in chronological order as a trial and regret not continuing with the actual project: biographies of important persons in chronological order

      - Sanora Babb's _Whose Names Are Unknown_: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1197158.Whose_Names_Are_... (ob. discl., that was my mention)

      Other books which only I mentioned:

      - Hal Clement _Space Lash_ now available in https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/939760.Music_of_Many_Sph... --- I recommend folks read it in reverse chronological order, starting at the back, then working to the front and bailing when things get too quaint/old-school/golden-age.

      - H. Beam Piper "Omnilingual" --- this should be a part of the middle school canon, lightly updated version at: http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan/omnilingual.html

      - _Foxfire_ --- a classic series what predated the "Maker" movement

      - Tolkien's _The Fall of Arthur_

      - Knuth _TeX: The Program_

      Books which were sufficiently striking that I have made a note of them to get to read (hopefully this will work out better than _The Black Swan_ which I found annoying)

      - _Visual Thinking in Mathematics_

      - _Hardcore VisualBASIC_ --- still a bit bummed that I managed to miss this and MacBasic....

      - _Phoebe and her Unicorn_ --- getting this for my daughter

      - _Harmony with Lego(R) Bricks_ --- book on music improvisation

      - Ornamental Origami

      Note that a number of books weren't actually mentioned, e.g., Isaac Asimov's _Book of Facts_

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    2. WillAdamsFeb 2025
      The inclusion of Vonnegut's _Cat's Cradle_ is bizarre --- it posits an impossible substance, with bizarre properties, and examines society in a way I have trouble relating to, and its commentary on science such as it is, is if anything, discouraging.

      _Dune_ for its role in inspiring the study of ecology would seem more fitting.

      It's unfortunate that a didactic text such as H. Beam Piper's novella "Omnilingual" couldn't be considered instead.

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    3. WillAdamsMay 2024
      Well, that was H. Beam Piper's premise in his "Terro Human Future" and "Paratime" stories --- see the wonderful novella "Omnilingual" and see the story "Genesis":

      https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/18105

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    4. WillAdamsDec 2022
      I've always thought it was quite unfortunate that some really arcane presentation of the periodic table wasn't used in H. Beam Piper's novella "Omnilingual":

      https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/19445/pg19445-images.ht...

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    5. coldpieAug 2022
      There is an excellent short story from the 50s, "Omnilingual" by H. Beam Piper, that explores deciphering a literally alien language. It is mercifully in the public domain because it was written before copyright became infinite in the 1970s. You can read it here: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/19445

      I would be interested to read the book you're talking about, if you have the title!

      (Your math example reminds me a bit of Lambda Calculus, but I guess you'd have a hard time making a real language out of it.)

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    6. MrDroneFeb 2013
      Some recommendations for people:

      Omnilingual by H. Beam Piper, known for his alternative time line stories.

      Beyond Lies the Wub, by Philip K Dick, a collection of his early short stories.

      A Princess of Mars, by Edgar Rice Burroughs. The beginning of his Mars series about its civilization's decline.

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